Liverpudlian Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Deli said: Same penalty for the Red Bull guy ? Money is king ! even around the globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatPH Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Mavideol said: surprised they are #2, lost my bet as thought they were up there #1 by a large margin Numbers from year 2014. Probably #1 long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 4 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said: I will be interested to see the outcome of this one. Rich people always seem to get away with things like this. Red Bull "Boss" being a prime example. Sadly I think you may be right, so often we hear fine words undermined by zero action or enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 46 minutes ago, jaiyen said: Thailand does not have a death penalty, so why do they even mention it ? oh yes it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 5 hours ago, worgeordie said: "Could", I think we all know that will never happen. regards Worgeordie Sure and the death penalty card we may assume will be used for all it's worth to increase the size of the brown envelopes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Maybe he is still there in Oz for the Phillip Island races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 2 hours ago, harada said: I would have thought being a late model vehicle that there would have been bells and whistles going if the seat belts weren't on ? You can have them disengaged easily enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngBKK Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 This will show the world how civilized thailand has become... But if it becomes standard, it can solve the problem with the high number of fatalities on the road. I just worry about the electricity bill.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Reject Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 When you senior figures behaving in this way ie driving p*ssed at 11am what chance the rest of them? A true sorry state of affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puccini Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, jaiyen said: Thailand does not have a death penalty, so why do they even mention it ? From an English translation of the Criminal Code: Quote Section 288 Whoever, murdering the other person, shall be imprisoned by death or imprisoned as from fifteen years to twenty years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 2 hours ago, harada said: I would have thought being a late model vehicle that there would have been bells and whistles going if the seat belts weren't on ? Did you never see those "seatbelt extenders" which you can buy at many places? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Speedhump said: Aggravated premeditated manslaughter (US definition) or similar (with malice aforethought being present) is the corrext charge. Murder must be deliberate and premeditated killing. Even Thais must know the definition of murder. Surely it is Thai judicial system which defines the correct charge not something based on laws in USA or any other country. stop using your own country as the yardstick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Tropposurfer said: Such blackouts can see a person e.g. drive, talk, facilitate a university lecture, a dinner party, indeed carry out all manner of activities and remember none of what has passed. Considering the amount, 4 or 5 bottles of beer, should/could not cause anyone to "black out". If so, people like that shouldn't drink alcohol, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, Essex Reject said: When you senior figures behaving in this way ie driving p*ssed at 11am what chance the rest of them? A true sorry state of affairs. Probably on his way home from the Gfs home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng50 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: At last some sense from the Thai police.... Pull out a gun & shoot someone it's murder Stab someone to death it's murder Batter someone to death it's murder DUI is murder... simple! Maybe Thais will start to get the message it's not exceptable anymore... in the hands of a drunk a car is a weapon!!!! Yeh sure, until a big handful of baht is slipped into someones hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Interesting I don't see Thailands neighbors on this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, ExpatPH said: Numbers from year 2014. Probably #1 long ago. According to the World Atlas website, Thailand was #1 for traffic deaths in 2017. The World Health Organisation (WHO) still had them as #2 in that year. I haven't seen any 2018, globally-ranked statistics yet but the WHO did rank them as #1 in SE Asia in 2018. Thailand road deaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokBaksida Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 5 hours ago, worgeordie said: "Could", I think we all know that will never happen. regards Worgeordie Exactly. This is all about scaring the money out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 5 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: I think by threatening a death penalty, they can increase the size of the envelope being presented... Do they have a different definition of murder here ? Surely it should be vehicular manslaughter !! I guess it could be argued that knowingly driving DUI means you accept the risk of killing someone, and therefore have the intention to drive drunk regardless of the consequences? Don't think there is standard differences between degrees of murder charges, manslaughter, causing death by negligence, or standard terminology around the legal systems of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedhump Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Surely it is Thai judicial system which defines the correct charge not something based on laws in USA or any other country. stop using your own country as the yardstick Not at all. Thailand is aware that it needs to use internationally recognised standards to be taken seriously on the world stage. This is one example. Another might be opening serious dialogue with the terrorists in the south of the country instead of just paying lip service to the thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Reject Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 This is like the equivalent of Richard Branson or Alan Sugar getting in their cars at 11am after a round of golf and wiping out a family. This guy seriously needs to pay for the carnage and pain that he has caused, but I think we all know what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, BangkokBaksida said: Exactly. This is all about scaring the money out of him. Will be interesting to see how this pans out. And compare to other cases e.g. Red Bull boy; the rich car dealer who killed two innocent people with his Benz after crashing the tollway barrier; the former policeman and PTP politician involved in the strange death of a billionaire in an innocuous crash, share transfer fraud and lying to police. AFAIK none of those cases have so far seen the accused/convicted punished in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedhump Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 5 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: I think by threatening a death penalty, they can increase the size of the envelope being presented... Do they have a different definition of murder here ? Surely it should be vehicular manslaughter !! Precisely. It's criminal negligence and therefore manslaughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: I guess it could be argued that knowingly driving DUI means you accept the risk of killing someone, and therefore have the intention to drive drunk regardless of the consequences? Don't think there is standard differences between degrees of murder charges, manslaughter, causing death by negligence, or standard terminology around the legal systems of the world. I believe murder is killing with intent ? Manslaughter is killing without intent to kill !! Therefore intending to drive drunk doesn't mean you intend to kill someone but it's a by product of being drunk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedhump Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: I guess it could be argued that knowingly driving DUI means you accept the risk of killing someone, and therefore have the intention to drive drunk regardless of the consequences? Don't think there is standard differences between degrees of murder charges, manslaughter, causing death by negligence, or standard terminology around the legal systems of the world. The Thai legal system proceeds very much like the systems in the UK and US. I don't think DUI in Thailand will attract a death penalty, despite what a 'top policeman' says to the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 40 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Surely it is Thai judicial system which defines the correct charge not something based on laws in USA or any other country. stop using your own country as the yardstick True - and although the Thai Criminal Code does not provide a clear definition of murder (that I can find) it defines manslaughter as: Quote caus[ing] death to the other person by inflicting injury upon the body of such person without intent to cause death Which would clearly make killing somebody by accident with a car, manslaughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user343434 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Thais and Farangs are set here on the same level when it comes to drunk driving which is much appreciated. Only the sad story stays: two humans get killed by a careless human. RIP Sir and Madam and my condolences to the relatives left behind. I wish all strength to get through this hard time. Sure both were excited and happily looking forward to celebrate the Songkran days with their beloved ones as every other family. 4-5 Beers making not losing anyone's memory, seems he want to plead for unsoundness of mind due to intoxication and I hope the justice will treat him with no respect of his status and public position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 52 minutes ago, jackdd said: Did you never see those "seatbelt extenders" which you can buy at many places? Yeah my wife bought one, I threw over the wall she got the hump with me upto her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Will be interesting to see how this pans out. And compare to other cases e.g. Red Bull boy; the rich car dealer who killed two innocent people with his Benz after crashing the tollway barrier; the former policeman and PTP politician involved in the strange death of a billionaire in an innocuous crash, share transfer fraud and lying to police. AFAIK none of those cases have so far seen the accused/convicted punished in any way. You missed out a couple of Porsche drivers there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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