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40 minutes ago, sweatalot said:

And you think that is evidence? 🤣

Yeah, I think it is significant, but if you really want to know, there is a lot of info out there. Here is one link

Not a very hard topic to research. 

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22 hours ago, mauGR1 said:

Lol, later i will search the fig tree bit, it is in some very dark and dusty corner of my memory.

As he was using parables to describe spiritual realities ( i know that you don't believe they exist, so pls spare me the insults), those parables need to be understood and meditated, and not criticised at face value.

Some of those parables took me decades to understand.

I definitely think that Jesus existed, but i can concede that details of his life could be exaggerated, distorted and possibly totally made up.

Jesus lived, as recorded by historians, though there is debate as to more than that he was a preacher or a prophet.

Even the Muslims regard him as a real person.

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45 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Jesus lived, as recorded by historians, though there is debate as to more than that he was a preacher or a prophet.

Even the Muslims regard him as a real person.

There is no doubt there have been a Jesus, or more during the time, inspired by each other, as old philosphers who made big thoughts, and changed peoples life.

Buth the great philosphers have each and one trademarks and proofs of their individuality and existence. Jesus or Jesuses is more a myth combined with his divinity. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tagged said:
1 hour ago, Tagged said:

There is no doubt there have been a Jesus, or more during the time,

 

Not sure.

But there is no proof

 

- he was the son of God

- he was born in Bethlehem

- his mother was a virgin

- the Sonf of God has been crucified

- he rose from the dead

 

may be the authors of the bible used some real person for their  invented Jesus and the invented  stories about him

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3 minutes ago, sweatalot said:

Not sure.

But there is no proof

 

- he was the son of God

- he was born in Bethlehem

- his mother was a virgin

- the Sonf of God has been crucified

- he rose from the dead

 

may be the authors of the bible used some real person for their  invented Jesus and the invented  stories about him

You are shifting the goal posts a bit. From not existing to not being God.

 

 

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1 hour ago, sweatalot said:

Not sure.

But there is no proof

 

- he was the son of God

- he was born in Bethlehem

- his mother was a virgin

- the Sonf of God has been crucified

- he rose from the dead

 

may be the authors of the bible used some real person for their  invented Jesus and the invented  stories about him

Im sure he was or they was ordinary humans with no extraordinary god given gifts, except extraordinary as an speacher and leader!

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4 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

You are shifting the goal posts a bit. From not existing to not being God.

 

 

come on. The Jesus - son of God  whom the churches talk about did NOT exist. MAY BE one or more normal man did exist - whose lifetime was used to build the story around that is now the teaching of the christians.

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25 minutes ago, sweatalot said:

come on. The Jesus - son of God  whom the churches talk about did NOT exist. MAY BE one or more normal man did exist - whose lifetime was used to build the story around that is now the teaching of the christians.

The man existed, he was a Jew and a preacher. The establishment hated him because he preached what they thought threatened their religion and power. They got the Romans to kill him. That's probably proven somewhere.

The message he taught was what lived on after he was killed, and it was subverted by other men to become the means by which THEY could get power and wealth. St Peter's in Rome is evidence of how well they did. I doubt there is much living in accordance with the Christ's teachings in the Vatican though.

The message is still relevant- love thine enemy, turn the other cheek etc.

Believe or not, that's your choice, but if you don't, don't expect heaven. Have to be in the club to go there.

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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The man existed, he was a Jew and a preacher. The establishment hated him because he preached what they thought threatened their religion and power. They got the Romans to kill him. That's probably proven somewhere.

The message he taught was what lived on after he was killed, and it was subverted by other men to become the means by which THEY could get power and wealth. St Peter's in Rome is evidence of how well they did. I doubt there is much living in accordance with the Christ's teachings in the Vatican though.

The message is still relevant- love thine enemy, turn the other cheek etc.

Believe or not, that's your choice, but if you don't, don't expect heaven. Have to be in the club to go there.

What a CROCK! 🤡

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2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's probably proven somewhere.

... probably ...  Says it all

Those teaching that you mentioned are valuable.

Probably they came from the authors who invented the "son of God"

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4 hours ago, sweatalot said:

come on. The Jesus - son of God  whom the churches talk about did NOT exist. MAY BE one or more normal man did exist - whose lifetime was used to build the story around that is now the teaching of the christians.

Your "maybe" is so convincing, I think you have settled it.

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The man existed, he was a Jew and a preacher. The establishment hated him because he preached what they thought threatened their religion and power. They got the Romans to kill him. That's probably proven somewhere.
The message he taught was what lived on after he was killed, and it was subverted by other men to become the means by which THEY could get power and wealth. St Peter's in Rome is evidence of how well they did. I doubt there is much living in accordance with the Christ's teachings in the Vatican though.
The message is still relevant- love thine enemy, turn the other cheek etc.
Believe or not, that's your choice, but if you don't, don't expect heaven. Have to be in the club to go there.
Have to believe there's a club first. No-ones convinced me yet, nor will they.

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50 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

Have to prove there's a club first...and only then would I give consideration to joining. Not sure this "club" would meet my standards. 

Still interesting how people world wide joining a club, where there is obvious benefits for the right people, and not everyone. 

 

God´s given promises to his people, do not account everyone in

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