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EU's Tusk says "dream" of Brexit U-turn not dead

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1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Come on Fritzy, 'fess up. There's various kinds of referendum in your corner of the EU isn't there?

They are trying to do things differently to what they previously promised and legislated for. Here i the UK, even a representative democracy cannot lie to the electorate and easily get away with it, no matter how often your EU gangsters pull that type of trick.

Sure? It looks like your parliamentary representative democracy is alive and kicking 🙂 

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6 hours ago, Tilacme said:

Full Brexit is going to happen one way or another.  I feel confident that the will of the majority of UK people will ultimately prevail.  There is no grubby EU treaty or any other septic hellish slur against the UK which we as a sovereign state cannot overcome. 

'The will of the UK people will ultimately prevail'. So you mean the UK will remain in the EU. This is 2019, not 2016, you know.

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7 hours ago, smedly said:

typical remainer - you don't know when it's over and you lost lol

 

I'm done with your baiting and trolling nonsense

Typical leaver. "We won, you lost, yah boo sucks!". "Democracy ended on 23/6/2016".

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6 hours ago, puipuitom said:

Looking at the polls in the U.K., more and more people have the idea, Brexit was not the wisest decission.

 

see also: https://whatukthinks.org/eu/poll/opinium-12-4-2019/  and  https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-there-was-a-referendum-on-britains-membership-of-the-eu-how-would-you-vote-2/  

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Completely irrelevant. Don't you understand that democracy stopped on 23/6/2016 and that anything that has happened since is an aberration?

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All those bunch of overpaid clowns in their cushy postings within the EU,  are just scared for their gravy train...EU to form a strong trade union definately yes against the other majors......but not the current dictatorship style union with a currency that is overvalued.

 

Must say the UK was brave in sending a clear warning signal.

 

(ok my fan club can bash me now for this one too🤣)

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5 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Wonder out of interest how many times 17.4m has been quoted and as the vote was near 3 years ago and also considering the leave vote was predominantly supported by the older generations how many are still alive and how many are now ghost voters. Unfortunately the wheels have come off both sides of the divide because of NI and in or out of course there will still be a border with no acceptable solution out and a very simple one in 🤔   

About 1 million leave voters (along with about 450,000 remainers) are sadly no longer with us. No worries, though, they have been replaced on the electoral roll by many 18-20 year olds, about 70% of whom would have been expected to vote remain. It would be sad if the long term future of the country is determined without a single person under the age of 21 having any say in the matter.

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5 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

You are aware that the Remain side also made loads of misleading claims during the referendum campaign, right? We were told a votee to leave would bring immediate economic armageddon, an emergency budget, and even the threat of World War III. Who knows how many voters were frightened into voting remain because of these fear tactics. 

 

That's not even considering the government leaflet sent to every household (costing tax payers £9m) telling us to vote remain. 

 

To keep banging on about the bus slogan just sounds like desperation frankly. 

Economic Armageddon and World War III sound like Sun/Mail/Express scaremongering. The emergency budget was not required as the money markets sorted that out by devaluing the £ by 20% (which of course led to a short-term boost for the economy as exports became cheap).

Cameron's leaflet though was the biggest boost to the leave vote imaginable. Everyone knew the Frinton incontinents would vote for Brexit. The deciding factor was the 'man in the Sunderland dole queue', for want of a better description, who has hated the Tories ever since Maggie Thatcher destroyed his local community. With Corbyn refusing to promote the Labour remain argument, a message from Cameron stating the Tory government position was like a red rag to a bull. He registered an anti-Tory (as opposed to an anti-EU) vote. Whether he would do so again is another matter, which is why most Labour MP's feel that their seat is safer by following their Remain convictions (which, after all, is what had them elected in the first place).

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5 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Why do you think the EU are so desperate for the UK to remain in the the union? Do you think it's because they care about the British people and fear for their future outside the EU? Or do you think it's because they will miss the UK's international clout and the UK's financial contributions to the EU, and fear the UK's ability to become internationally competitive after we leave? 

I believe it's the latter. 

Think of it like this. The EU is a human body, and the UK is a leg. The body does not want to lose a leg, it will be uncomfortable and it will not be capable of everything it could do before. It will make adjustments, though, and will be able to survive. As for the leg on its own......

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6 minutes ago, Stupooey said:

Think of it like this. The EU is a human body, and the UK is a leg. The body does not want to lose a leg, it will be uncomfortable and it will not be capable of everything it could do before. It will make adjustments, though, and will be able to survive. As for the leg on its own......

Let's be honest. Of course EU is going to miss UK as one of our respected member. There is no doubt about it. 

 

We, in the EU, would love to keep our UK friends as our long standing partners. We also don't wish to see our UK partner to fly either to the USA's Putin's side or Russia's Putin's side. We'd prefer to keep you folks together with us. Together we are stronger anyway.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

 

Yes that’s been the plan from day one. The unelected Bureaucrats in Brussels and some Anti- Democratic remainers.hoped that the Brits would give way,as happened in the Republic of Ireland. Unfortunately for them, the desire of the British to exit this so called Onion has only increased.

 

 

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when will it sink in,our MPs dont want us to leave,a 100% sovereign UK govt decision,well done those MPs,nowt to do with mr Barnier,i feel a bulldog tattoo coming 🤣

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Our EU is a good deal for all of us Europeans. We can pay a bit to the common good so that we all can have common fair rules for all of us to follow. 

 

EU is not for any one specific country's needs. EU is formed to be and protect all of our needs. 

 

We, as EU members do understand that we can't behave like silly kids demanding only what we want right now. We know, as adults, that we do compromises with our peers. We know that's the way our way of living goes forward. 

 

Russian monoideology presenters are against this. Too bad for them, they are on the loosing side. 

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9 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

I would like to know why individuals chose to vote leave. 

 

I wouldn't dream of guessing their reasons and certainly don't do mind reading.

 

 

Now please tell tell us the future plans of the unelected Bureaucrats in Brussels, for the future of this so called Onion.

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

 

Now please tell tell us the future plans of the unelected Bureaucrats in Brussels, for the future of this so called Onion.

 

Do you refer unelected bureaucrats in Brussels in similar way as the unelected bureaucrats in Whitehall? 

 

Or do you call people in Whitehall as British civil servants? Should you call the people of Brussels in similar way, British and other European countries civil servants?

 

 

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