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BANGKOK 20 June 2019 15:56
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Thai navy boards cabin of fugitive 'seasteaders' facing death penalty

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What would prompt anyone to live on a small structure. What would your address be and how does the postman get there. Is it just a tax dodge ? I'm confused. It's a hazard to shipping, remove it.

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20 hours ago, kensisaket said:

You have to believe this is more an issue of untapped oil deposits in the waters surrounding Thailand than anything.  Nip in the bud the possibility of someone claiming mineral rights before that becomes an issue.  

It has nothing to do with any untapped oil, there's nothing worth trying to extract out there, a little bit to the east of Nicobar but to small to be of any use.

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19 hours ago, farq said:

That's the Convention that the US ignores at their own convenience and has not ratified but uses as an excuse to stir up the Chinese in the South China Sea.

According to the Chinese, all seas belong to them.

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Simply this "Vessel" needs to be adequately licensed and inspected as a marine vessel with the appropriate Country that it was built or comes from. Once that is accomplished (as like a sailboat or other motorized vessel) then the legal issue of anchoring the vessel offshore should be addressed...

If it is within Thai waters then the Thais have authority...If not then they should not be anywhere near this thing, unless of course it is a hazard to navigation (which it probably is).

 

The death penalty thing is a media frenzy...

 

My guess is that it will be towed onshore and possibly destroyed unless properly documented.

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Must be the first job the Navy has had to do in 5 years.

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The location of the seastead as given by the Navy puts the structure at 7º 29.37 N, 98º 34.91 E, which is 27.5km (14.8nm) east of Koh Racha Noi and 25.22km (13.61nm ) southwest of Koh Bida Nok, south of Phi Phi Island.
Read more at https://www.thephuketnews.com/american-thai-partner-in-hiding-fearful-of-charges-for-seastead-south-of-phuket-71114.php#Cp1iWorfAKJhiSEo.99 “

 

I am more than astonished that Thai Authorities are claiming infringement of the EEZ as reason...

1) The position of the Seastead is not within the 12 nm Territorial Waters, but well with the 24 nm Contiguous Zone, where a nation can exert control regarding “infringement of its customs, fiscal, immigration or sanitary laws and regulations within its territory or territorial sea"”

2) Connecting the outer island ring Ko Kaeo Noi near Phuket with Ko Racha Noi to Ko Butang , they might even claim that as archepelagic waters.

 

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Posted (edited)
On 4/21/2019 at 8:04 AM, YetAnother said:

thailand does not have to try hard to be an international laughingstock, over and over

It is difficult to decide who of the two parties involved is demonstrating the most obtuseness.

Edited by The Deerhunter

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Posted (edited)

RE - Noteworthy: There has been other negative stories of late. Gang them all together and it doesn't sound like a very safe place to visit.

 

Overall, Safe to visit - Not to invest, especially without proper permits - needed or not … :thumbsup:

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i dont get it. all the usual extreme cynical and negative comments. you all live in Thailand, how about more understanding for your host country? want a seahome off the coast? how about doing it in yr own magnificent country off the coast of Florida?  Why come here as an ignorant gringo, and with zero respect think you are in your own Disneyland. Plz go back home and take yr bargirlfriend with you. and that goes for all the cynical expats. dont like it here? its not yr country and nobody forces you to stay. 

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1 hour ago, herwin1234 said:

i dont get it. all the usual extreme cynical and negative comments. you all live in Thailand, how about more understanding for your host country? want a seahome off the coast? how about doing it in yr own magnificent country off the coast of Florida?  Why come here as an ignorant gringo, and with zero respect think you are in your own Disneyland. Plz go back home and take yr bargirlfriend with you. and that goes for all the cynical expats. dont like it here? its not yr country and nobody forces you to stay. 

Wow! Take a chill pill! There has been one that I know of off the coast of the UK since WW2. You can see it from the beach. It has its own 'royalty' and currency. No threat to national sovereignty or anything. As usual Thai 'maskirova'!!!

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You can turn this however you want , it is illegal. If this would be somewhere at US waters , you’d get one warning and after they would sink it. And if not quick enough those on it with it. Dead penalty is in every part of the world the common sentence on this. The only difference they do not make a media crisis of it, it just happens quiet. 

(This also is the case for Europe , Russia China, Japan and so on. )

Seasteading is just a way to try to undermine other country’s , avoiding to pay taxes and so on. It is a base for everything that is illegal. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, sobrann said:

You can turn this however you want , it is illegal. If this would be somewhere at US waters , you’d get one warning and after they would sink it. And if not quick enough those on it with it. Dead penalty is in every part of the world the common sentence on this. The only difference they do not make a media crisis of it, it just happens quiet. 

(This also is the case for Europe , Russia China, Japan and so on. )

Seasteading is just a way to try to undermine other country’s , avoiding to pay taxes and so on. It is a base for everything that is illegal. 

 

 

Ha, as far as China and Russia are concerned I don't think there would be any info at all. They'd probably just use it for target practice and blow it out of the water.

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