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nchuckle

No foreign bank transaction code required by Korat immigration

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I am one who uses the income method when I apply for my extension for the purposes of retirement and always have done, although previously using an income letter from my embassy.  For many years I have tended to bring in in excess of 65000 baht per month in any case, but as soon as there was a suggestion that this might be a prerequisite, around October last year, I have made sure it was always over the 65000 mark.  This year I am due to extend towards the end of August and things may be clearer by then.  However, as it stands at the moment, I intend to present myself at immigration in Hua Hin with all the usual documentation, plus bank statements from Kasikorn bank for a year and my Transferwise receipts and see how it goes.  I shall make sure I renew at the soonest possible moment, so that I have the necessary time to obtain any further documentation and I will make sure I take my Thai girlfriend and her very cute and smiley 6 year old daughter, who we look after together, with me. As the saying goes, there are many ways to skin a cat and we all know how Thais are with children!

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3 hours ago, mikosan said:

I am one who uses the income method when I apply for my extension for the purposes of retirement and always have done, although previously using an income letter from my embassy.  For many years I have tended to bring in in excess of 65000 baht per month in any case, but as soon as there was a suggestion that this might be a prerequisite, around October last year, I have made sure it was always over the 65000 mark.  This year I am due to extend towards the end of August and things may be clearer by then.  However, as it stands at the moment, I intend to present myself at immigration in Hua Hin with all the usual documentation, plus bank statements from Kasikorn bank for a year and my Transferwise receipts and see how it goes.  I shall make sure I renew at the soonest possible moment, so that I have the necessary time to obtain any further documentation and I will make sure I take my Thai girlfriend and her very cute and smiley 6 year old daughter, who we look after together, with me. As the saying goes, there are many ways to skin a cat and we all know how Thais are with children!

Your (and many others) problem will be that you will have relied upon the supporting paperwork of transferwise to verify foreign transfer when your Kasikorn statement will say domestic. You are expecting the IO to examine up to 12 sets of paperwork. Others have reported IOs willing to accept only bank statements which isolate designated foreign transfers because anything else is too complicated for them to grasp.Should That be the case when you actually come to do your extension there is no other paperwork you can subsequently produce to overcome that requirement,you will have to leave the country to reapply I understand.

As the OP my plan B is to revert to marriage visa and ensure 400k in my account 2 months before if I deem at that cut off point that the assurances I was given cannot be relied upon. I at least have that luxury.

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23 hours ago, Briggsy said:

You're right.

 

But I would add that Thais say, "Yes," most often when they understand just one or two words in the sentence that they have recognised, and then have constructed their own meaning around that. They then answer, "Yes," to their own question!

 

So in this particular example the IO may have understood "foreign transfer" but not all the rest about what transaction code is required and then said, "Yes, yes," as a foreign transfer method does exist.

 

As you point out, if the OP had asked what transaction code is required to qualify for the foreign transfer option for a retirement extension, the response may very well have been the blank face. That is the standard response for 'I know it is not a yes/no question but I don't understand what was asked."

A valid assessment. Unfortunately different banks have different codes so it can’t be reasonably expected for the IO to know them so the blank face should be expected. Also my bank book has a code against the transaction which isn’t even in the list in the passbook and only the statement says domestic transfer! My feeling is that for the most part IOs will need something as close as possible in simplicity to the income letter,hence a statement containing ONLY foreign transactions.Only  As this unfolds over the next few months will the picture become clearer - and I don’t mean clear!- so we remain in a kind of limbo.

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Let's cut to the chase. Is it that Thai immigration is not that fluent in English or other languages? Or are they just playing dumb to avoid any extra work?

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It's true Korat Immigration is very helpful I know because I live in Korat to and they're awesome.  Korat Immigration is by the book though which is good because you always know what to expect there.  But Korat Immigration will not deviate from the rules they stick to the rules and they're by the book.  But they are also VERY FRIENDLY AND VERY HELPFUL.  

 

What the OP is posting is no surprise at all Korat Immigration has always been very helpful, friendly, but also exactly by the book which is actually also a very good thing because you know that they're not going to make up their own rules they never do.  They're by the book, helpful, and, always very friendly.  I think Korat Immigration is probably the best in Thailand based on everyone else's complaints about other immigration offices.  I love Korat and I wouldn't want to live in any other city but I do like to visit as much of Thailand as I can but I would only want to live in Korat nowhere else.  

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On ‎4‎/‎21‎/‎2019 at 12:34 AM, thequietman said:

That's very true.

 

I have learned that YES can mean No and also Possibly Maybe , but probably, NOT.

 

Thai's say Yes, when they mean No, all the time. They don't want you to lose face, so they will say Yes, when they actually mean No.

 

It is so confusing and frustrating and I still don't understand it after 15 years here. 😞

Same same but different as the famous Thai T-shirt says

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9 hours ago, theboogeyman said:

It's true Korat Immigration is very helpful I know because I live in Korat to and they're awesome.  Korat Immigration is by the book though which is good because you always know what to expect there.  But Korat Immigration will not deviate from the rules they stick to the rules and they're by the book.  But they are also VERY FRIENDLY AND VERY HELPFUL.  

 

What the OP is posting is no surprise at all Korat Immigration has always been very helpful, friendly, but also exactly by the book which is actually also a very good thing because you know that they're not going to make up their own rules they never do.  They're by the book, helpful, and, always very friendly.  I think Korat Immigration is probably the best in Thailand based on everyone else's complaints about other immigration offices.  I love Korat and I wouldn't want to live in any other city but I do like to visit as much of Thailand as I can but I would only want to live in Korat nowhere else.  

Tell the other immigration officers there that we all say Hi and thank them for their service. 🙂

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Interesting news.

 

At Chaeng Watthana I think my ext/stay-ret gets reviewed by four (4) levels of rank, including the initial IO. On my first est/stay application, the first three levels approved it, after having paid, received a receipt and had the stamp applied in my passport. This is when you used to meet individually with each subsequent officer back in the "L" area cubicles (now this review is handled somewhat opaquely, while intern/trainees ferry your passport back out to you in the waiting area).

 

Then the fourth level officer proceeded to deny my ext, after which my money was refunded and the stamp red-lined. I had to employ legal assistance (3,000 THB all in) who wrote a letter and accompanied me to CW, where this fourth level officer granted my extension. I was extending a Non-Imm B (investment), so there was some concern on her part that I was employed here, I guess.

 

My somewhat long-winded response is simply meant to say that what one IO says today may not reflect reality, especially months from now in what is a transition period regarding financial requirements and proof.

 

 

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