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SenorJorge

Prostatitis doctor in bangkok?

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3 hours ago, oxysong said:

Sorry for you George  Senor that is,really am.  ,but Id try the Indian option before flying to the USA,the doctors/surgeon's there are extremely good,looked at list here at your nearest point to India Calcutta,they are good,reputation means everything to those guys,they get sacked and kicked out on their hospitals if they foul up,here in Thailand they just promote them.  Consultation about 500 baht  cheap flights,you could have been there and back,treatment delivered for the time this threads been running...  Stay away from chain hospitals  Apollo,Fortis,RG Stone,they are expensive,  not as this lot tho,but the independent hospitals are just as good,opt for ward if deciding on treatment ..they will never put you in one anyway,but save money    If suspected cataracts try one of those eye hospitals there,everything as good if not better than Ruthin and far far cheaper      Anyway hate to see that suffering,it will be damaging your kidneys too

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Well my insurance covers 70-75 percent of my health care costs in the United states.  In india and thailand technically 70 but I have to submit an overseas claim myself.  I have to factor in the cost of the flights of course.  But I don't really mind hanging out in Cleveland for a few months to see if there's an easier fix.

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14 hours ago, SenorJorge said:

I'd recommend really anyone with prostatitis symptoms to head to the USA or one of the well known prostate docs in India.

I feel sorry for you in all that you are going through, however I know exactly how you feel having battled prostatitis for decades and having tried just about every antibiotic that there is known to man, even the newest ones.

 

As I mentioned in another post of mine, doxycycline taken for 90 days at a time was the only thing which provided some relief, and then most likely down to its slight anti-inflammatory action.

 

Like you I've had prostatic fluid examined and cultured, prostate massages, cystoscopies, ultrasounds, urine flow tests, heat treatment (external) and tried pelvic floor exercises and all sorts of antibiotics and combinations thereof, all to no avail.

 

Something you mentioned in one of your posts did actually fire a neuron with me, and that is that after years and years of battling this, one urologist in NZ said that he believed I had prostatic calculi as a result of minor infections in the prostate from shagging around in my youth!

 

It is known that BPH and prostatitis are two separate things, and my symptoms of prostatitis were almost always accompanied with some sort of urine flow obstruction and my last urologist in New Zealand suggested that the prostatic calculi in the prostate were causing inflammation, which in turn was causing the prostate to swell.

 

This was certainly the first time I had heard this, however I continued with the doxycycline for a few more years until the prostate became inflamed again and as this urologist said, "ragged" – – due to the inflammation and calculi in it.

 

Anyway, to cut a long story short, I had a Turp and that must have reamed out the prostatic calculi at the same time, because I have never suffered from prostatitis since that operation, some urine retention now and then (probably needs doing again) however no prostatitis.

 

Maybe this will be of some help to you, coming from someone who as I say, suffered from prostatitis for decades and who saw the top urologists in the UK, New Zealand, and Australia in order to try and get it fixed.
 

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I think what did me in this time, truthfully, is the uti combined with the fact that I didn't ejaculate for about a month because I was out of town and just not in the mood.  If you have prostatitis you really need to ejaculate every day if you have this because if you don't your prostate is just going to swell up with fluid and go into overdrive.  The body's natural way to combat this is with wet dreams but if you're older those won't happen anymore.

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19 minutes ago, xylophone said:

I feel sorry for you in all that you are going through

Which turp surgery did you have?  Do you still have retrograde ejaculations?  Or did you ever?

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4 minutes ago, SenorJorge said:

Which turp surgery did you have?  Do you still have retrograde ejaculations?  Or did you ever?

My TURP was done with the old-fashioned method, whereas I did want it done with the latest laser and I would still recommend the latest laser as the way to go, because it results in less bleeding and heels quicker, which would have helped me get past the inflammation and urine retention in the bladder.

 

I never had retrograde ejaculations and I didn't after the TURP, but after having a bladder neck incision operation done here, which the surgeon assured me would be no problem whatsoever, now I do.........bugger!!

 

Having said that, there is something which finds its way out of the end of the old fella (though not much), and certainly the feeling is much the same, so I put up with it and move on, because there is nothing I can do about it, although it might appease me somewhat if I were able to strangle the surgeon!!

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32 minutes ago, SenorJorge said:

The body's natural way to combat this is with wet dreams but if you're older those won't happen anymore.

Doxazosin 2mg every night to loosen up the muscles and blood vessels in my nether regions, side effect is a massive one about 2 hours later and either the gf or a dream gets the benefit ........ not so much fun with a catheter in.

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You two guys are in for a hell of an awakening when you do finally take the plunge. First hour there in Indian hospital drink water lots of it,then flow meter ,all flat lining as they say,absolutely no flow,just dribble. At discharge same- same but like a rocket,it hurt had to slow stream down.

   No more getting up 5 or 6 times in the night,freedom to piss when I like ,when I like,no changing pants 2   3 or more times in a day. That catheter pained tho the longer it was there,will remain until blood flow was considerably reduced. Pain management,just a small box of the stuff inserted into dehydration tubing into arm,kept increasing the flow by increasing pin pricks into bag ,but morphine strip would have done well,but as I asked the catheter was removed.    The Indians sure treat you with dignity ,professionalism and courtesy,far more than the bunch here in Thailand

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You two guys are in for a hell of an awakening when you do finally take the plunge. First hour there in Indian hospital drink water lots of it,then flow meter ,all flat lining as they say,absolutely no flow,just dribble. At discharge same- same but like a rocket,it hurt had to slow stream down.
   No more getting up 5 or 6 times in the night,freedom to piss when I like ,when I like,no changing pants 2   3 or more times in a day. That catheter pained tho the longer it was there,will remain until blood flow was considerably reduced. Pain management,just a small box of the stuff inserted into dehydration tubing into arm,kept increasing the flow by increasing pin pricks into bag ,but morphine strip would have done well,but as I asked the catheter was removed.    The Indians sure treat you with dignity ,professionalism and courtesy,far more than the bunch here in Thailand
I like your posts on the Indian hospital option, its a shame we don't have more threads on it to increase peoples options and knowledge
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Ureaplasma urealyticum and or mycoplasma hominis seems to have caused a urethral stricture in me.  That's the only explanation for the persistent urethritis I'm suffering from in the absence of an infection.  I'm going to go back to bangkok to have a retrograde urethrogram performed before I go to india or the USA.  I was thinking about self dilating but with all of the pissed off tissue I don't think it's a good option for me right now.  My penis itself is retaining urine and spraying and with a normal case of nonbacterial prostatitis this is not normal.  I'm really getting the treatment in life.  Sometimes I want to wander out in front of a bus but there has to be some answer.  My wife is extremely angry that she may have to stay with her sister while I go to get help in the USA but what the hell can I do?  I'm sick and near death.  Would she rather lose me for three months or lose me for life?  I don't get it why am I getting head games right now

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1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:
2 hours ago, oxysong said:
You two guys are in for a hell of an awakening when you do finally take the plunge. First hour there in Indian hospital drink water lots of it,then flow meter ,all flat lining as they say,absolutely no flow,just dribble. At discharge same- same but like a rocket,it hurt had to slow stream down.
   No more getting up 5 or 6 times in the night,freedom to piss when I like ,when I like,no changing pants 2   3 or more times in a day. That catheter pained tho the longer it was there,will remain until blood flow was considerably reduced. Pain management,just a small box of the stuff inserted into dehydration tubing into arm,kept increasing the flow by increasing pin pricks into bag ,but morphine strip would have done well,but as I asked the catheter was removed.    The Indians sure treat you with dignity ,professionalism and courtesy,far more than the bunch here in Thailand

I like your posts on the Indian hospital option, its a shame we don't have more threads on it to increase peoples options and knowledge

i got a quote from Goa ....... $2,000 general ward, $4,000 private room.

I thought that was a bit expensive. Still waiting for a quote from a CM hospital.

Hoping I won't need to take further action as weeing normally for 3 days now (since the catheter removed).

 

@SenorJorge, sorry to hear you're in such a bad way, surprised they haven't used a catheter on you, can't say it hurt me in any significant way, bit of bleeding when they first put it in, the negatives for me were it got in the way of hiking, cycling and banging the girlfriend.

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18 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

i got a quote from Goa ....... $2,000 general ward, $4,000 private room.

I thought that was a bit expensive. Still waiting for a quote from a CM hospital.

Hoping I won't need to take further action as weeing normally for 3 days now (since the catheter removed).

 

@SenorJorge, sorry to hear you're in such a bad way, surprised they haven't used a catheter on you, can't say it hurt me in any significant way, bit of bleeding when they first put it in, the negatives for me were it got in the way of hiking, cycling and banging the girlfriend.

This is what I got too,I got them under half price eventually.  You need to tell them that you have had cheaper prices elsewhere,Calcutta ,Desun hospital for instance,they themselves will be cheaper than 2000 USD.  Opt for ward ,they will never put you in one,but semi-private,  just like I.

   It was 2 years ago I had the op there in Goa,suppose like everywhere prices have gone up,not to that avail tho,and Rps against GBP are weak.  Email them back with a quote of 1200 from Desun,more than likely they will accept,give a try anyway

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i got a quote from Goa ....... $2,000 general ward, $4,000 private room.
I thought that was a bit expensive. Still waiting for a quote from a CM hospital.
Hoping I won't need to take further action as weeing normally for 3 days now (since the catheter removed).
 



You didn't look in Kolkata? cheap and quick flights there
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32 minutes ago, SenorJorge said:

Ureaplasma urealyticum and or mycoplasma hominis seems to have caused a urethral stricture in me.  That's the only explanation for the persistent urethritis I'm suffering from in the absence of an infection.  I'm going to go back to bangkok to have a retrograde urethrogram performed before I go to india or the USA.  I was thinking about self dilating but with all of the pissed off tissue I don't think it's a good option for me right now.  My penis itself is retaining urine and spraying and with a normal case of nonbacterial prostatitis this is not normal.  I'm really getting the treatment in life.  Sometimes I want to wander out in front of a bus but there has to be some answer.  My wife is extremely angry that she may have to stay with her sister while I go to get help in the USA but what the hell can I do?  I'm sick and near death.  Would she rather lose me for three months or lose me for life?  I don't get it why am I getting head games right now

Ureaplasma is treatable with antibiotics although some experimentation is needed, whereas Mycoplasma hominis presents a much more difficult case.

 

I'm not sure whether these in themselves can cause a urethral stricture, however just as likely will be procedures such as cystoscopy, catheter use and so on.

 

I know this is a bit "broad" however there is one particular antibiotic which has been shown to have great penetration of the prostate, and that is piperacillin, that is if you think you could still have some sort of infection there.

 

After many years of research on this, I did find an article by a specialist which suggested that "persistent urethritis" with no infection found, actually becomes a condition which in itself causes the symptoms but with no specific cause, i.e. it exists because of the constant urethritis which has been present over time??

 

Anyway I could go on and on about lots of things in this area, but I have just dug out some of my research and the papers which have been produced by various medical universities and institutions and I will send them to you in a PM, in order to save any unnecessary "discussion" about them.

 

Please read them thoroughly and see if you can glean anything which you can follow up on, or discuss with the specialist.

 

All the best.

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49 minutes ago, SenorJorge said:

Ureaplasma urealyticum and or mycoplasma hominis seems to have caused a urethral stricture in me.  That's the only explanation for the persistent urethritis I'm suffering from in the absence of an infection.  I'm going to go back to bangkok to have a retrograde urethrogram performed before I go to india or the USA.  I was thinking about self dilating but with all of the pissed off tissue I don't think it's a good option for me right now.  My penis itself is retaining urine and spraying and with a normal case of nonbacterial prostatitis this is not normal.  I'm really getting the treatment in life.  Sometimes I want to wander out in front of a bus but there has to be some answer.  My wife is extremely angry that she may have to stay with her sister while I go to get help in the USA but what the hell can I do?  I'm sick and near death.  Would she rather lose me for three months or lose me for life?  I don't get it why am I getting head games right now

Get it done in India George,take her with you,they encourage family members to accompany too

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38 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Ureaplasma is treatable with antibiotics although some experimentation is needed, whereas Mycoplasma hominis presents a much more difficult case.

 

I'm not sure whether these in themselves can cause a urethral stricture, however just as likely will be procedures such as cystoscopy, catheter use and so on.

 

I know this is a bit "broad" however there is one particular antibiotic which has been shown to have great penetration of the prostate, and that is piperacillin, that is if you think you could still have some sort of infection there.

 

After many years of research on this, I did find an article by a specialist which suggested that "persistent urethritis" with no infection found, actually becomes a condition which in itself causes the symptoms but with no specific cause, i.e. it exists because of the constant urethritis which has been present over time??

 

Anyway I could go on and on about lots of things in this area, but I have just dug out some of my research and the papers which have been produced by various medical universities and institutions and I will send them to you in a PM, in order to save any unnecessary "discussion" about them.

 

Please read them thoroughly and see if you can glean anything which you can follow up on, or discuss with the specialist.

 

All the best.

The bacteria is gone.  Antibiotics got rid of it.  What I suffer from now is the scarring of the tissue from the infection.  They're parasites.

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