webfact Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 ‘Beware of fruits that generate heat during summer’ By The Nation Doctors have warned people about excessive consumption during summer of the popular Thai fruit durian, as it could increase body heat and have harmful effects on health. Dr Sanpong Rithraksa, president of the Alternative and Traditional Medicines Information Centre, said eating too much durian could raise temperature of the bodies and cause canker sore, resulting from excessive body heat. The excessive consumption of the fruit could also be harmful to those having regular illnesses such as high blood pressure or heart problems, as it could worsen the symptoms, he said. Durian is high in calories so consumption of the fruit should be limited, especially when the weather gets hotter, he said. To reduce body heat, fruits that have a cooling effect such as mangosteen should be considered, the doctor suggested. Other Thai herbal drinks could also be of help, he added. Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30368071 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-04-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user343434 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Durian might even knock you over before you overheat when you wash it down with some beers. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, See Will said: Durian might even knock you over before you overheat when you wash it down with some beers. ???? It might knock others over if you eat too much and get flatulence. Or burp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisperone Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Have to admit I know nothing about eating durian. My question is, if this apparently raises body temperature, are they saying durian is a cause of inflamation in the body? If that is the case, perhaps it is not a good fruit to eat at any time. Many studies have been done on problems of inflamation. Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianBlessing Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, wisperone said: Have to admit I know nothing about eating durian. My question is, if this apparently raises body temperature, are they saying durian is a cause of inflamation in the body? If that is the case, perhaps it is not a good fruit to eat at any time. Many studies have been done on problems of inflamation. Just wondering. I believe the suggestion is that the body must expend more energy to manage the excess calories contained in the durian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 What a silly premise, could you just say don't eat durian on hot days? and what if you eat said fruits in an airconditioned environments? would that be ok?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 The usual nonsense from the Hub of Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Try looking at TCM, there are 'hot' & 'cold' foods. It really isn't nonsense. I could, if I was inclined, post some links, explain it more, but I know how some people just love to ridicule anything that's different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wayned Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 hours ago, See Will said: Durian might even knock you over before you overheat when you wash it down with some beers. ???? It can actually kill you if you drink to much beer when you it it as it puts your liver in overdrive processing the different fats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: Beware of fruits that generate heat during summer’ By The Nation Doctors have warned people about excessive consumption during summer of the popular Thai fruit durian, Global warming cause identified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: Dr Sanpong Rithraksa, president of the Alternative and Traditional Medicines Information Centre: Other Thai herbal drinks could also be of help, he added. In a real advertorial there would be a list of brand names from his own production line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofacloud Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: Other Thai herbal drinks could also be of help, Like Kratom? Good advice, a very chilling brew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I see a business opportunity. Introduce the durian to cold countries (I know one) and promote the body temperature rising aspect. But wait! If the body temperature is raised, that means the cold will be felt even more. No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1. People with high cholesterol should not eat durian as it will cause one's blood cholesterol levels to spike. Dr Soh: Contrary to belief, durians contain no cholesterol. The fats which are found in durians are monounsaturated fats and these may help to lower an individual’s LDL (bad) cholesterol and triglyceride levels. Ms Chia: Durian is a fruit that has a ‘bad’ name. It is a myth that durian increases cholesterol levels as it does not contain cholesterol and limited saturated fat. When looking to reduce cholesterols levels, other parts of our diet that contributes more fat, cholesterol and calories should be first assessed. 2. The fruit is heaty and can cause coughs and even fever if you overindulge. Dr Wong: The link between heatiness and symptoms of fever and cough is likely to be a Traditional Chinese Medicine concept. Scientifically, it is possible that there may be a slight increase in body temperature during digestion due to metabolic and chemical processes that arise from it. However, it does not constitute a fever nor does it lead to neither cough nor respiratory infection. Mr Chew: From a TCM perspective, durian is a nutritious fruit that has a strong ‘warming’ property. For those of us whose body constitutions are pre-disposed to heatiness, over-indulgence in durians can induce symptoms such as phlegmy cough, sore throat and constipation. Fever may also result in some cases. 3. Eating durian together with alcohol can be lethal and also taking together with milk can be dangerous. Dr Wong: There has been no conclusive scientific evidence establishing that eating durian and alcohol together may be fatal. However, due to the its relatively high fibre and carbohydrate content, excessive intake may actually give rise to heartburn and bloatedness in some people, which may be worsened with alcohol intake. Mr Chew: Both durians and alcohol share similar warming properties according to TCM. Taken together or separately, we would always advise moderate consumption as aggressive warming of the body’s systems can be harmful. 4. To get rid of the after-smell, pour water into the husk and drink from it. This will also help you to regulate the "heatiness". Mr Chew: There is a practice of drinking salt water from the durian husk. TCM believes that salt water has the effect of reducing toxins and heatiness, and thus can moderate the undesirable effects of eating durians. As for ridding the after-smell, we do not know of a good medical basis to support this practice. 5. Diabetics can eat durians without much worry as the fruit does not taste sugary. Dr Soh: Individuals with diabetes need to limit their consumption of durians as the fruit has high sugar content. Three seeds of durians (depending on the size) can contain between 20 and 30 grams of carbohydrates. That is equivalent to the sugar content in half a can of regular Coke (20 grams) or one bowl of white rice (30 grams). Therefore, persons with diabetes should only eat durians in moderation and be keenly aware of the approximate amount of carbohydrates consumed at each time. Ms Chia: Durians is high in carbohydrates. Per 100g it has double the amount of carbohydrates compared to apples and 3-4 x more than strawberries. Thus, people with diabetes should limit the intake of durian to 1 -2 seeds as a serve of fruit. Nutritional benefits of durian Nutritional content of durian per 100 grams (about 3 fruits with seed) Durian, Malaysian, mid-range Durian, Thai, raw Energy (kcal) 160 kcal 165 kcal Protein (g) 2.50 g 2.50 g Total fat (g) 2.80 g 4.10 g Saturated fat (g) 0.85 g 1.10 g Dietary fibre (g) 3.10 g 3.20 g Carbohydrate (g) 31.10 g 29.60 g Cholesterol (mg) NA NA Sodium (mg) 8 mg 3 mg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Yearly summer ritual of blaming the durian. Eating in moderation like just about everything is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just come across a hair-raising guide to the dangers of eating durian. Enough to put you off eating the stuff for life! It lists nine potential hazards - including several which can prove fatal. The one of most interest to ThaiVisa forum members, I suspect, is this one: 6. Characteristically lethal when mixed with alcohol. Don't say you weren't warned! https://www.thealthbenefitsof.com/9-side-effects-of-eating-durian/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 It is actually not silly advice, but what he should have said is do not eat excessive quantities at any time & be care of alcohol intake when eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Yeah, like I really needed another reason not to eat durian. Anyway, this 'heatiness' of foods is nonsense. Your metabolism ramps up whenever you eat anything, increasing your core temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Krataiboy said: Just come across a hair-raising guide to the dangers of eating durian. Enough to put you off eating the stuff for life! It lists nine potential hazards - including several which can prove fatal. The one of most interest to ThaiVisa forum members, I suspect, is this one: 6. Characteristically lethal when mixed with alcohol. Don't say you weren't warned! https://www.thealthbenefitsof.com/9-side-effects-of-eating-durian/ personally i would trust the uk nhs pregnany information slightly more (LOL) than the asianaturalmedicine.blogspot info you posted, and i am not even from the uk https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/foods-to-avoid-pregnant/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, atyclb said: personally i would trust the uk nhs pregnany information slightly more (LOL) than the asianaturalmedicine.blogspot info you posted, and i am not even from the uk https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/foods-to-avoid-pregnant/ So would I. I was posting, of course, with my tongue stuck firmly in my cheek. Thanks anyway for the pregnancy link, but there's no chance of me getting preggers or even, in my eighties, helping someone else fulfil such an ambition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecyclist Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 12 hours ago, wisperone said: Have to admit I know nothing about eating durian. My question is, if this apparently raises body temperature, are they saying durian is a cause of inflamation in the body? If that is the case, perhaps it is not a good fruit to eat at any time. Many studies have been done on problems of inflamation. Just wondering. I am a durian lover and used to eat them almost daily during the durian season back when they were still affordable. They certainly make you feel hot :Never applied a thermometer to determine whether this feeling is based on an actual raised body temperature.To be able to drink beer in the evening (another of my daily habits) I have them in the morning for breakfast, because they take a long time to digest, and until they are digested you don't even feel like drinking alcohol (might be a good thing for alcoholics to wean themselves off booze). Up to 8 hours later you can still feel them sitting in your stomach, belching up durian vapor to the delight of those around you. Then comes the flatulence. But it is the King of fruits, and if you lucky enough to a really good one it's a heavenly taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myshem Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 12 hours ago, user343434 said: Durian might even knock you over before you overheat when you wash it down with some beers. ???? Can you explain why it happens ? What is the process that makes it dangerous with alcohol ? Anybody tried or it's just a legend ? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Date Masamune Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Can you explain why it happens ? What is the process that makes it dangerous with alcohol ? Anybody tried or it's just a legend ? Thanks. Sounds like Durians are good for making your body a human test tube. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 11 hours ago, faraday said: I could, if I was inclined, post some links, explain it more, but I know how some people just love to ridicule anything that's different. I believe you are referring to the "sheeple" ???? If "big Pharma" or their doctors (in the pursuit of making money) tell them anything they believe without question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 There has not actually been a lot of research done so basically it's a myth, but here's a link: https://www.yearofthedurian.com/2013/08/durian-and-alcohol-deadly-mix.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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