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         Im planning to move to Bangkok next month. I will be looking to rent a condo with a one year contract in On Nut. I have been communicating with a property management agency in Bangkok. Tonight I spoke with the agent I was working with. I mentioned electricity and water charges. She told me that I would be paying 20 baht per unit for water, and 5 baht per unit for electricity. I asked her if these were the government rates, and she said no. I told her I felt that I should be charged the government rates for water and electric. And I should not be paying a profit for utilities. She said when you rent a condo, you do not pay the government rates. Now that I challenged her on it, she immediately stopped communicating with me.

         So is the property agent correct ?

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3 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

No, not correct. Many tenants pay the official/real price...

but on the other hand, 5B for electricity is not far of the real price (about 4)

and 20B for water is probably below the real price,

So I would not avoid to rent a place I like just because of this small difference. :thumbsup:

I also would back this nod up

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A condo will often have large holding tanks and pumps for water they need maintenance and electricity..so an inflated water price is somewhat justified..electricity should be billed at PEA or MEA rates about 4.6 baht per unit so again 5 baht is not bad but not the "proper" rate.

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My apologies. I had it backwards. Its 20 baht per unit for electricity and 5 baht for water. Sorry about that

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look at this way -  if they are doing that they will probably do other things - like keep your deposit, bill you for normal wear and tear. Likewise anyone who wants 3 months deposit is likely trouble. Just avoid them and save yourself a lot of aggravation. They are of a certain mindset that is nothing but trouble.

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The rates you were quoted were about right. The government rate varies from month to month, but for electric it is 4 point something baht per unit. Many landlords round this to 5 baht for consistency.

 

Government water rates are less than 20 baht, but many condo buildings do not have government water meters for each condo unit. Instead the building installs their own meters and charges 20 baht per unit. Any profit should go into the building common fund.

 

Rather than asking if you will be charged government rates, a better question might be will you get the electric bill to pay yourself. As nearly all bills are delivered to the property, the answer is normally yes.

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7 hours ago, blackcab said:

The rates you were quoted were about right. The government rate varies from month to month, but for electric it is 4 point something baht per unit. Many landlords round this to 5 baht for consistency.

 

Government water rates are less than 20 baht, but many condo buildings do not have government water meters for each condo unit. Instead the building installs their own meters and charges 20 baht per unit. Any profit should go into the building common fund.

 

Rather than asking if you will be charged government rates, a better question might be will you get the electric bill to pay yourself. As nearly all bills are delivered to the property, the answer is normally yes.

Sorry I had it backwards. It was 20 baht per unit for electricity and 5 baht per unit for water.

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My government electricity bill (M.E.A.) last month was 1.277,31 Thb for 317 units. 

 

At 20 Thb per unit, it would have been 6.340 Thb. 

 

I think you better look for another place. 

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It is very common for condo and apartment buildings to mark up electricity and water. A small markup is ok. But, beware of huge margins. It is beyond unethical. 5 baht for electric is very fair. A friend of mine used to pay 8 baht. That is about a 100% profit on electric. Of course marking up electric should be illegal, but it is perfectly legal, as far as I know.

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Personally, it wouldn't bother me if I liked the condo and was happy with the rent ..after all ..how much can it amount to every month ...not a fortune I would imagine over and above the government charges.

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13 hours ago, blackcab said:

Government water rates are less than 20 baht, but many condo buildings do not have government water meters for each condo unit. Instead the building installs their own meters and charges 20 baht per unit. Any profit should go into the building common fund.

That's the Bangkok price. In Pattaya city water is around 35B/unit, plus there is a city fee for waste water treatment that is usually added by the condo building to the per unit price that water is re-billed at.

The re-billing procedure here is the same though.

 

And as far as I know some buildings use pumped ground water which has a very different cost.

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