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Does anyone in America honestly believe that the sort of business deals that Trump has been involved with will be squeaky clean, any more than any other such business dealings the rest of the super-rich are involved with? This is a problem on a global scale, that the ultra-rich operate in an ethereal world where certain rules do not apply to them in the same manner as it does to the rest of us. But are the Clinton's business dealings likely to undergo the same scrutiny? Of course not. Why? Because the principle motivation behind this scrutiny where Trump is concerned is patently political in motive. If you honestly believe the democrats are pursuing this for the sake of preserving democracy, then you are precisely the person who believes you are a handsome man because a bargirl tells you so. 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, OtinPattaya said:

Does anyone in America honestly believe that the sort of business deals that Trump has been involved with will be squeaky clean, any more than any other such business dealings the rest of the super-rich are involved with? This is a problem on a global scale, that the ultra-rich operate in an ethereal world where certain rules do not apply to them in the same manner as it does to the rest of us. But are the Clinton's business dealings likely to undergo the same scrutiny? Of course not. Why? Because the principle motivation behind this scrutiny where Trump is concerned is patently political in motive. If you honestly believe the democrats are pursuing this for the sake of preserving democracy, then you are precisely the person who believes you are a handsome man because a bargirl tells you so.

What Clinton business deals are you referring to?  What do you think it is the Clinton's are hiding?  The Clintons are arguably the most scrutinized politicians in US history.

 

Trump brought this scrutiny upon himself by refusing to release his tax returns (as the Clintons and every other President since Nixon have done), refusing to put his holdings in a blind trust, "vacationing" at Trump properties at taxpayer expense where anyone who can afford the admission fee ($200,000 for Mar-a-Lago) has access to him, misleading if not out-right lying about his Russian connections during the campaign, etc.

 

You'll forgive me and many others if a newbie to ThaiVisa comes down so squarely in favor of Trump causes suspicion.  There have been many such newbies.  Maybe you're legit, maybe you work on a Russian troll farm. 

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On 4/23/2019 at 8:58 AM, Berkshire said:

It's becoming abundantly clear that there's a truckload of indictments waiting for Trump the minute he leaves office.  There's at least 14 ongoing investigations that the Mueller team referred to other Justice Department elements, 12 of which are totally secret.  It's not a stretch to assume at least one is for Trump.  And then there's the SDNY and the NY AG.  Trump has been able to get away with financial shenanigans for so long he probably really does think he's outsmarted the system.  He probably would have gotten away with it had he not been elected POTUS.     

I think that is a correct assumption. Hopefully becoming president will end up being the greatest mistake and the most stunning act of hubris in this man's life. If he is prosecuted, it will be something he richly deserves. 

 

However, it is quite possible that the "deep state" that he falsely rails against, installed him, and is actually protecting him. 

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On 4/23/2019 at 7:54 PM, hugocnx said:

Proof please.

There is a countless amount of proof out there, of this man's multiple felonies. 

 

I'm regard to Deutsche Bank, just a few questions that will be explored:

What documents, architecture plans, zoning plans, pictures, financial models or other inputs did you request of Trump and related parties when bankers had to analyze securities underwriting or loan requests? 

 

Did any of your bankers visit the properties for which Trump was requesting loans?

 

Can you produce the documents, plans, and pictures Trump gave you to support loan approval?

 

Did Deutsche bankers ask for the methodology that Trump used to determine the value of his assets, especially for real estate and his brand? 

 

Did you speak to Trump’s accountants?

 

And if there was a model to determine assets’ value, what is the expertise of the modeler? Was the model audited?

 

In 2004, Trump told you that he was worth $3 billion. You calculated that he had a net worth of about $788 million.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/mayrarodriguezvalladares/2019/04/01/possible-trump-deutsche-bank-fraud-raises-serious-questions/amp/

 

President Donald Trump may have committed bank fraud if he lied to Deutsche Bank about his net worth in order to obtain a loan, Representative Ted Lieu of California said this week, noting that some of Trump’s associates had gone to prison for similar crimes.

“The American people must not become numb to these disturbing reports. We now have further evidence that Donald Trump may have repeatedly committed bank fraud, a felony under 18 U.S.C. 1344,” Lieu told Newsweek.

 

https://lieu.house.gov/media-center/in-the-news/donald-trump-may-have-committed-bank-fraud-and-congress-will-investigate

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8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

There is a countless amount of proof out there, of this man's multiple felonies. 

 

I'm regard to Deutsche Bank, just a few questions that will be explored:

What documents, architecture plans, zoning plans, pictures, financial models or other inputs did you request of Trump and related parties when bankers had to analyze securities underwriting or loan requests? 

 

Did any of your bankers visit the properties for which Trump was requesting loans?

 

Can you produce the documents, plans, and pictures Trump gave you to support loan approval?

 

Did Deutsche bankers ask for the methodology that Trump used to determine the value of his assets, especially for real estate and his brand? 

 

Did you speak to Trump’s accountants?

 

And if there was a model to determine assets’ value, what is the expertise of the modeler? Was the model audited?

 

In 2004, Trump told you that he was worth $3 billion. You calculated that he had a net worth of about $788 million.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/mayrarodriguezvalladares/2019/04/01/possible-trump-deutsche-bank-fraud-raises-serious-questions/amp/

 

President Donald Trump may have committed bank fraud if he lied to Deutsche Bank about his net worth in order to obtain a loan, Representative Ted Lieu of California said this week, noting that some of Trump’s associates had gone to prison for similar crimes.

“The American people must not become numb to these disturbing reports. We now have further evidence that Donald Trump may have repeatedly committed bank fraud, a felony under 18 U.S.C. 1344,” Lieu told Newsweek.

 

https://lieu.house.gov/media-center/in-the-news/donald-trump-may-have-committed-bank-fraud-and-congress-will-investigate

And of course you did all that, right?

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