Jump to content
BANGKOK 21 May 2019 22:27
longball53098

SCG Staycool Insulation install

Recommended Posts

Hey all,,,,,,I will be installing the 150mm Staycool batts in ceilings over 3 rooms in the near future. I will hire out the install but I am trying to decide if I should make a deal with Homepro for the product and their installer services or hire my own local guy that has never done this type of thing before.

 

Has anyone used Homepro for this? Can you validate that they do a proper install? Cutting out the areas around downlights as an example?

 

I will ask my local guy to watch the Thai SCG videos on how to install and see if he is willing to do it.

 

So, anyone with any suggestions?

 

Thanks

 

PK

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If your ceiling is the "normal" hanging type, the hangers are (should be) 60cm apart and that is what the bat width is.  So, it's just a matter of rolling them out.  A short person who can survive the heat can easily do it but best to have two.  My wife and the neighbor boy did ours.

 

I wouldn't bother cutouts.  There is no fire hazard with today's lights and that stuff doesn't burn anyway.  It's the reflection of radiant heat that will help so you don't really need much thickness to the bat (must have some).  But there are folks that are convinced the thicker the bat, the better.  There you go.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The 150mm batts need no training to install, I did our bedroom ceiling myself. The only tool needed was a knife to cut round electrical cables.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, bankruatsteve said:

If your ceiling is the "normal" hanging type, the hangers are (should be) 60cm apart and that is what the bat width is.  So, it's just a matter of rolling them out.  A short person who can survive the heat can easily do it but best to have two.

I took it that he had the individual squares not rolls. So it is even easier, though longer, to fit

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

On a flimsy suspended plasterboard ceiling its not easy no matter hoe you look at it.

I made two efforts before buying these Staycool rolls just to see if i thought the runners could hold my weight or if i marched out there could i balance and turn around.

In the end despite my athletic and flexible manoeuvres i decided those runners would fold in a heartbeat and i would be thro.

I paid someone the going rate of 50bt a m2 for 16rolls. The trick is your profficiency with the long stick to roll out and push to the corners.

 

Our guy was literally like a pit miner when he surfaced, For 1800bt it was preferable to me falling through the ceiling with a lot of damage

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, eyecatcher said:

On a flimsy suspended plasterboard ceiling its not easy no matter hoe you look at it.

I made two efforts before buying these Staycool rolls just to see if i thought the runners could hold my weight or if i marched out there could i balance and turn around.

In the end despite my athletic and flexible manoeuvres i decided those runners would fold in a heartbeat and i would be thro.

Perhaps your ceiling not conventional?  When they put the hangers in for my house, I could suspend my 90 kg with no issue.  Wouldn't put weight on the plaster board, but the runners should be OK.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, bankruatsteve said:

I wouldn't bother cutouts.  There is no fire hazard with today's lights and that stuff doesn't burn anyway. 

Some LED fittings and drivers might not be happy with their new cosy wrap. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 minutes ago, Fruit Trader said:

Some LED fittings and drivers might not be happy with their new cosy wrap. 

I have never had a problem with LED lights as they seem to run cool. But I did have to cut around the spots as they used to get hot and bugger the bulbs rather quick. I only use then on a dimmer so never on full power. Just a small gap over the spots letting any heat out and they have lasted for months.

 

Has the lagging of roof helped, you had better believe it the rooms stay quite cool now. Well worth the expense.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, fredob43 said:

I have never had a problem with LED lights as they seem to run cool. But I did have to cut around the spots as they used to get hot and bugger the bulbs rather quick. I only use then on a dimmer so never on full power. Just a small gap over the spots letting any heat out and they have lasted for months.

 

Has the lagging of roof helped, you had better believe it the rooms stay quite cool now. Well worth the expense.

LED lights that appear to be running cool are most likely dissipating their heat effectively. Interfering with the heat dissipation can result in premature failure of the LED or its solid state driver components. You can quite literally cook egg on the back of a 10 watt LED that has no place to dump its heat.

 

Good quality drivers will most often fail in a safe manner but unfortunately the same cant always be said for those off the cheap Chinese market.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A good supply of plastic plant pots if in doubt 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, eyecatcher said:

A good supply of plastic plant pots if in doubt 

 ... with holes drilled or whatever to let them breath a bit. Easy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 ... with holes drilled or whatever to let them breath a bit. Easy.

No need to drill, just buy the pots like these, this is a 5inchx5inch pot

IMG_20190423_135532.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, longball53098 said:

I will ask my local guy to watch the Thai SCG videos on how to install and see if he is willing to do it.

Longball, do you have a URL to these videos, would appreciate the link if you do. Any idea of what these are called in Thai as I can't understand the Tingalit spoken in the HP stores.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
31 minutes ago, eyecatcher said:

No need to drill, just buy the pots like these, this is a 5inchx5inch pot

IMG_20190423_135532.jpg

Exactly, my buddy in CM used these exact pots. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
45 minutes ago, xkkpafi said:

Longball, do you have a URL to these videos, would appreciate the link if you do. Any idea of what these are called in Thai as I can't understand the Tingalit spoken in the HP stores.

It was so difficult to find them YouTube search link

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...