billd766 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Happy St George's day to all us English people worldwide. Link to comment
Oxx Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 A tad insensitive to Muslims, isn't it? Celebrating a figure so associated with the Crusaders fighting against Mohammedans and the terrible massacres? The UK is now a multicultural society, enriched by people from across the globe, including Muslims. We should celebrate their contributions to society and respect their feelings by putting an end to St. George's Day. Link to comment
Stocky Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 St George pre-dates Islam, I believe he was a Roman soldier from what is now Turkey. So an appropriate symbol for multicultural England. (It's hardly his fault Crusaders stuck his cross on their shields and tabards) . Link to comment
VocalNeal Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Oxx said: A tad insensitive to Muslims, isn't it? Celebrating a figure so associated with the Crusaders fighting against Mohammedans and the terrible massacres? The UK is now a multicultural society, enriched by people from across the globe, including Muslims. We should celebrate their contributions to society and respect their feelings by putting an end to St. George's Day. Just a modern PC knee jerk without any knowledge of who St. George was. At least i looked... Quote His veneration by Christians and Muslims lies in his composite personality combining several Biblical, Quranic and other ancient mythical heroes.[41] Link to comment
petermik Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Not only St Georges Day but my b/day also............... Link to comment
brewsterbudgen Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 At least St Patrick's Day is a good excuse for a piss-up. I can't see any reason for celebrating St George's Day when most English people neither know nor care about it (apart from some small-minded nationalists). Link to comment
VocalNeal Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Flags will be flying on all Anglican churches. St Patrick's day has also no real relevance to St Patrick in the modern world it is simply an evening long happy hour. Mostly celebrated by the descendants of refugees from the republic... Link to comment
billd766 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, Oxx said: A tad insensitive to Muslims, isn't it? Celebrating a figure so associated with the Crusaders fighting against Mohammedans and the terrible massacres? The UK is now a multicultural society, enriched by people from across the globe, including Muslims. We should celebrate their contributions to society and respect their feelings by putting an end to St. George's Day. Well I suppose you might say that it is a tad insensitive to muslims, but how about Hindus Buddhists, church of Scotland and all the other religeons around. I am not pc and I never will be, nor do I care what you may think. Nor do I give a rats arzzz about what you think is the UK multicultural society. BTW I specifically named only England because St George IS the patron saint of England and it is his day, not that of a multicultural society. 20 minutes ago, petermik said: St George is the patron saint of England, St Andrew of Scotland, St David of Wales and St Patrick of Ireland. Link to comment
billd766 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, petermik said: Not only St Georges Day but my b/day also............... Link to comment
evadgib Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 54 minutes ago, Oxx said: A tad insensitive to Muslims, isn't it? Celebrating a figure so associated with the Crusaders fighting against Mohammedans and the terrible massacres? The UK is now a multicultural society, enriched by people from across the globe, including Muslims. We should celebrate their contributions to society and respect their feelings by putting an end to St. George's Day. Banging that particular drum just 24hrs after 290 people have been murdered inc 8 Brits, by ...........................? Give it a rest pal! ☹️ Link to comment
Oxx Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, evadgib said: Banging that particular drum just 24hrs after 290 people have been murdered inc 8 Brits, by ...........................? Give it a rest pal! ☹️ A handful of Muslims who don't represent mainstream Islamic opinion did something terrible. Perhaps if the West wasn't so keen upon waging war and fomenting turmoil in Muslim countries, then it might not have happened. The hundreds of thousands of Muslims who've died as a result of the West's policies make the small number of non-Muslims killed pretty insignificant in the greater scale of things. The failure of the West to treat Muslims with respect is uncivil (particularly in the case of England when Muslims were invited to come and work here and to contribute to society), both in international policies and in continuing to promote the Crusader St. George iconography. Where I come from in the UK it's considered rude to invite someone into one's house, then insult them. To do so is a betrayal of British values and standards. Treat other people with respect. Or, since we're talking about a saint here, do as Jesus said "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another". Link to comment
Oxx Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, billd766 said: I am not pc and I never will be, nor do I care what you may think. I thought all the dinosaurs were extinct. I hope it's not too long before the last of them is. Link to comment
evadgib Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, Oxx said: A handful of Muslims who don't represent mainstream Islamic opinion did something terrible. Perhaps if the West wasn't so keen upon waging war and fomenting turmoil in Muslim countries, then it might not have happened. The hundreds of thousands of Muslims who've died as a result of the West's policies make the small number of non-Muslims killed pretty insignificant in the greater scale of things. The failure of the West to treat Muslims with respect is uncivil (particularly in the case of England when Muslims were invited to come and work here and to contribute to society), both in international policies and in continuing to promote the Crusader St. George iconography. Where I come from in the UK it's considered rude to invite someone into one's house, then insult them. To do so is a betrayal of British values and standards. Treat other people with respect. Or, since we're talking about a saint here, do as Jesus said "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another". Quote Give it a rest pal! ☹️ Link to comment
billd766 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, Oxx said: I thought all the dinosaurs were extinct. I hope it's not too long before the last of them is. No reasonable response, just insult the poster, as usual. Link to comment
evadgib Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, billd766 said: No reasonable response, just insult the poster, as usual. A trait all too common on these boards of late ☹️ Link to comment
Oxx Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, billd766 said: No reasonable response, just insult the poster, as usual. No "reasonable response" because you didn't make any reasonable point remotely worth of response. As for "insult the poster", it was you who wrote "Nor do I give a rats arzzz about what you think is the UK multicultural society". Just toddle off to the nearest dinosaur graveyard, won't you? Link to comment
Traubert Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Oxx said: A tad insensitive to Muslims, isn't it? Celebrating a figure so associated with the Crusaders fighting against Mohammedans and the terrible massacres? The UK is now a multicultural society, enriched by people from across the globe, including Muslims. We should celebrate their contributions to society and respect their feelings by putting an end to St. George's Day. Ok, deal. We'll cancel Ramadan as well. Then everybody is happy, ok? Link to comment
VocalNeal Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 What? Ramadan is party time. There would be a war. Link to comment
wgdanson Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Oxx said: A handful of Muslims who don't represent mainstream Islamic opinion did something terrible. Perhaps if the West wasn't so keen upon waging war and fomenting turmoil in Muslim countries, then it might not have happened. The hundreds of thousands of Muslims who've died as a result of the West's policies make the small number of non-Muslims killed pretty insignificant in the greater scale of things. The failure of the West to treat Muslims with respect is uncivil (particularly in the case of England when Muslims were invited to come and work here and to contribute to society), both in international policies and in continuing to promote the Crusader St. George iconography. Where I come from in the UK it's considered rude to invite someone into one's house, then insult them. To do so is a betrayal of British values and standards. Treat other people with respect. Or, since we're talking about a saint here, do as Jesus said "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another". Jesus.....isn't he a Man City player? Link to comment
grollies Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Oxx said: A tad insensitive to Muslims, isn't it? Celebrating a figure so associated with the Crusaders fighting against Mohammedans and the terrible massacres? The UK is now a multicultural society, enriched by people from across the globe, including Muslims. We should celebrate their contributions to society and respect their feelings by putting an end to St. George's Day. Which is why it isn't PC to celebrate the day in the UK anymore. Link to comment
brewsterbudgen Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Which is why it isn't PC to celebrate the day in the UK anymore.Has it ever been? I grew up in the 1970s and I don't ever remember celebrating it.Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment
Stocky Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Has it ever been? I grew up in the 1970s and I don't ever remember celebrating it. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Likewise, I grew up in the UK during 60s/70s, it was never anything I remember celebrating, it was the Irish, Welsh and Scots that did Saint's Days. It was only skinheads and the National Front who liked to wave the Cross of St George. . Link to comment
evadgib Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 The English Democrats website includes a petition to make St Georges day a public holiday in line with everyone else. It's currently @ 67k signatures. Link to comment
bomber Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 george was actually french On 4/23/2019 at 5:49 AM, Stocky said: St George pre-dates Islam, I believe he was a Roman soldier from what is now Turkey. So an appropriate symbol for multicultural England. (It's hardly his fault Crusaders stuck his cross on their shields and tabards) . he was french actually,i might get my tricolour out it is red,white and blue after all Link to comment
bomber Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, evadgib said: Make St Georges day a public holiday lets have 2 may days instead ???? Link to comment
bomber Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 19 hours ago, Stocky said: Likewise, I grew up in the UK during 60s/70s, it was never anything I remember celebrating, it was the Irish, Welsh and Scots that did Saint's Days. It was only skinheads and the National Front who liked to wave the Cross of St George. . very true,i barely heard of it until 10-15 years ago and barely anyone other than the above mentioned are bothered,seems like an excuse for a visit to spoonies and copying the paddys more than anything,but lets raise a glass of red wine to the frenchman anyway Link to comment
Stocky Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, bomber said: george was actually french No he wasn't. A Frenchman fighting a dragon, don't be ridiculous. Link to comment
bomber Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Benroon said: errrrr no he wasn't Eerrrr its highly probable he was french...or even turkish or roman Link to comment
Stocky Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, bomber said: Eerrrr its highly probable he was...or even turkish Link to comment
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