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Judicial System Experience

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For long time expats living in Thailand, Do you have any personal experience in Judicial System in Thailand ? How were you treated as Foriegner ?

Civil or Criminal cases involved , how was your lawyer ? were you explained good enough on the cases against you ? Or did you sue someone who is Thai ?

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Short version: deep pocket$ trump truth or evidence; the lawyers alway$ win.

 

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agree that its best to avoid conflicts ,  even if it involves a little ..god forbid...loss of face on your part.

But it is a slow day on TV if you care to tell us your story and accept the missiles that will be launched

by our esteemed members.

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9 hours ago, Trujillo said:

The judicial system is a lot more than just suing someone. 

 

Case in point, I have an ongoing matter regarding theft. The police handled the case as well as could be expected and the perpetrator was found and confessed. The case is now in the court and is being adjudicated in Bangkok with the "attorney general" regarding a point of law. 

I will have my day in court.

 

I have not retained a lawyer and have done whatever needs to be done myself. I was even able to locate the Chiang Mai prosecutor who will be hearing the case, who informed me of the process. I will not be accompanied by a lawyer in court. And my reading is not quite at the level to understand Thai legal documentation. I have someone help me with that. 

 

There is a notion, both here and abroad, that if you have any dealings with the law, you must have an attorney to represent you. This is largely untrue. Of course this does not include you being arrested for something, in which case you may be unable to properly obtain the legal information you need. 

 

I have found that all the officials I have dealt with have been friendly and helpful. Some of the police officers have been less than sanguine at times, but I think some of their behavior was for the benefit of the underlings.

 

I don't know what you specifically are asking, OP ajcnx, so a little narrowing of the scope might help you. 

 

By the way: "...the system here doesn't cater for foreigners, only Thais..." seems a little odd from someone of such long standing here. Unless of course you mean they don't provide all the documentation in English for you, then yes, they only cater to Thai speakers and readers. I am not aware of a two-tiered legal system in the same vein as the dual pricing system for foreigners and Thais as in, say, national parks here. 

Thanks for sharing your experience, I am just curious of knowing some of the experiences of different people as I have been studying Thai Laws in last 2 years . I have worked as an interperator for more than 50 cases in Chiangmai Civil and Criminal court . What i have experienced is no matter you are at fault or not everybody try to push you accept the charges no matter you have done it or not . 

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8 minutes ago, ajcnx said:

What i have experienced is no matter you are at fault or not everybody try to push you accept the charges no matter you have done it or not . 

 

I'm sure that's not unique to Thailand. It seems over 90% of those charged with crime in the "land of the Free", USA, never see a courtroom and are often bullied into accepting the charges, commonly in some watered-down form. No criminal system fairly serves the poor. 

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I mentioned this case awhile ago where a young Canadian boy was murdered by a Thai policeman, who then shot a young Canadian girl in Pai. She survived and sued the Royal Thai Police. She could only afford a young Thai female lawyer and it took ten years, but she was successful in court; was awarded a considerable settlement and after another year of waiting, the money was transferred to her.

This young lady was brave and tenacious. I would have walked away as my opinions are somewhat similar to other posters regarding  these situations. However, "might is right" did not seem to apply in this particular situation. However, being a young, female, attractive tourist can't hurt.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Teak said:

I mentioned this case awhile ago where a young Canadian boy was murdered by a Thai policeman, who then shot a young Canadian girl in Pai. She survived and sued the Royal Thai Police. She could only afford a young Thai female lawyer and it took ten years, but she was successful in court; was awarded a considerable settlement and after another year of waiting, the money was transferred to her.

This young lady was brave and tenacious. I would have walked away as my opinions are somewhat similar to other posters regarding  these situations. However, "might is right" did not seem to apply in this particular situation. However, being a young, female, attractive tourist can't hurt.

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing . Me too I am aware of this story , She went through a lot of difficulties but Brave enough not to leave the matter 

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We had an officer who stole over 500.000 THB in 2 years. We sued the person and went to court. Judge agreed with us (Western and Thai) and the person was given 5 months to return the amount, which received or face 5 years jail. Took us 3 times going to the court and 85.000 for a laywer. Worth it.

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