Alcoholism (disease form) is contagious

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, totally thaied up said:

Pancreatic problems that have not cleared up. I have another friend with colon problems all caused by excessive drinking. Both have literally killed themselves from the sauce but they seem to live happy lives being permanently inebriated to the point they look sober all the time.

It's the final reckoning of that inebriation that gets ugly. Seen it a couple of times at the condo.

[freedomnow]

Good on you OP being able to walk away from all that if it got to that point.

 

Thai beer particulary nasty for hangovers....to the point I stopped drinking the poison...do they use unfiltered water out the ocean ? The hangovers were that long and rough...

 

 

The show goes on for the rest of them.

Goodbye.

[Pattayabeerbacon]

4 hours ago, RobMuir said:

Not all lost. The strong can handle it year after year and are having a ball. 

 

But but there is a very high attrition rate. Over 90% of my original drinking crew from ten years ago have fallen. Either broke financially, have died, gave up, married and moved on or deported.

 

Pattaya sure has sorted the men from the boys.

Yes i lasted a week before i started to mad with alcoholic paranoia.

[Pattayabeerbacon]

4 hours ago, RobMuir said:

Not all lost. The strong can handle it year after year and are having a ball. 

 

But but there is a very high attrition rate. Over 90% of my original drinking crew from ten years ago have fallen. Either broke financially, have died, gave up, married and moved on or deported.

 

Pattaya sure has sorted the men from the boys.

Yes i lasted a week before i started to mad with alcoholic paranoia.

[Pattayabeerbacon]

4 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

When I read the OP, I did think that Cambodia isn't a place I would choose if my main goal was to stay away from alcohol...

 

Philippines might be better for that, especially Davao where there aren't that many Ex-pat bars to fall into...

 

It works for me for some reason, But then again i had no intention of staying in the capital where all the bar girls,Casinos and bright lights are. 

 

Local areas always have better food and friendlier locals, no way would inhave been able to detox staying around silom/Patpong/sukhumvit to much temptation for me, I lack self control and my body was suffering because of that.

 

 

Cambodia is doing its job now and in feel like if i can do atleast 30 days sober i will be happy with my self.

 

Not to say i will relapse after that but i am avoiding whatever triggers my alcoholic.

[Pattayabeerbacon]

4 hours ago, smutcakes said:

You cant of been in Cambodia long, it was only last week you told us that Bangkok was the Holy Grail. You must have only been in Cambodia less than week. I presume there are larger issues at work than the place you are located.

I was in Pattaya 1 week bangkok 2 weeks and arrived in cambodia earlier this week.

 

Ive been in and out of thailand for 11 years, I have drank in excess of 2 Million baht in thailand , I have nothing to show for that accept last trip i began losing my mind and experiencing the beggining stages of jaundice.

 

Bangkok helped first but i started to drink chang beer in the mornings, then the afternoon then i was drinking chang all day every day and started losing touch with reality.

 

 

Third day here in the cambodian countryside side with no alcohol, No social life either but drying out is not supposed to be fun is it.

 

 

 

[Kieran00001]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If you're over 55 and have $300 you can have a 1 year multi entry 'ES VISA' for Cambodia, no questions asked, no need to see immigration. You need to enter on the $35 ordinary VISA if you have the intention of extending with an ES (= extended stay) VISA.

Rooms are available from $150/month and up. In western ghettos eating out from $2 up. Indian curry will cost around $5.

Booze is cheaper and women are younger, both are as easily available in Cambodia as they are in Thailand.

 

Women are younger in Cambodia, really?

[elliss]

  Boredom is  a main cause of alcho dependency , in a country 

far from your homeland , and homegrown habits and hobbies .

 

     

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If you're over 55 and have $300 you can have a 1 year multi entry 'ES VISA' for Cambodia, no questions asked, no need to see immigration. You need to enter on the $35 ordinary VISA if you have the intention of extending with an ES (= extended stay) VISA.

Rooms are available from $150/month and up. In western ghettos eating out from $2 up. Indian curry will cost around $5.

Booze is cheaper and women are younger, both are as easily available in Cambodia as they are in Thailand.

 

Women are younger in Cambodia, really?

 

Its called quantum aging... perfect for those fearful of breaking age of consent laws in Thailand !!! 

[elliss]

6 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

Women are younger in Cambodia, really?

 My  last and final  visit to Cambodia ,   children in their early teens , with farlangs .

 

 

 

[Pattayabeerbacon]

19 minutes ago, elliss said:

 My  last and final  visit to Cambodia ,   children in their early teens , with farlangs .

 

 

 

Never seen that type of activity.

 

Nore do i want to.

[from the home of CC]

with the proper nutrition you could take heroin everyday for years and do less damage than daily drinking, you boys need to find a new drug..

[Pattayabeerbacon]

7 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

with the proper nutrition you could take heroin everyday for years and do less damage than daily drinking, you boys need to find a new drug..

Yep the DTs are worse than any drug comedown  its pure insanity , you cant eat , sleep , leave the room and last year i went inti convulsions /Hallucinations from booze.

 

Alcohol is the hardest one to kick aswell because its socially accepted and available 24/7 all around the globe (apart from the arab world).

[impulse]

7 hours ago, RobMuir said:

Not all lost. The strong can handle it year after year and are having a ball. 

 

But but there is a very high attrition rate. Over 90% of my original drinking crew from ten years ago have fallen. Either broke financially, have died, gave up, married and moved on or deported.

 

Pattaya sure has sorted the men from the boys.

 

Yup.  And the men have left town.

 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, elliss said:

 My  last and final  visit to Cambodia ,   children in their early teens , with farlangs .

I was thinking the girls in the Phnom Penh bars were in their 20s while the girls in Chiang Mai bars tend to be in their 40s.

Clearly your thinking runs along different lines to my thinking.

While there I met a really nice girl who was 30, still younger than the girls I would meet in Chiang Mai.

(Husband died in road accident, so even the same stories)

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Pattayabeerbacon said:

Third day here in the cambodian countryside side with no alcohol, No social life either but drying out is not supposed to be fun is it.

 

Drying out may not be fun. 

 

But if staying off the sauce long term isn't fun, you're not doing it right.

 

[Pattayabeerbacon]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

Drying out may not be fun. 

 

But if staying off the sauce long term isn't fun, you're not doing it right.

 

Having a clear mind in the mornings is priceless.

 

I used to get jitters from caffeine if i was hungover, Now i can drink coffee like normal people, I wanna stay forever in cambodia as a sober.

 

 

 

[impulse]

7 minutes ago, Pattayabeerbacon said:

Having a clear mind in the mornings is priceless.

 

I used to get jitters from caffeine if i was hungover, Now i can drink coffee like normal people, I wanna stay forever in cambodia as a sober.

 

Don't forget the added benefit of going out with a little bit of money in your pocket and coming home with change, instead of a bunch of ATM withdrawal slips.

[elliss]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I was thinking the girls in the Phnom Penh bars were in their 20s while the girls in Chiang Mai bars tend to be in their 40s.

Clearly your thinking runs along different lines to my thinking.

While there I met a really nice girl who was 30, still younger than the girls I would meet in Chiang Mai.

(Husband died in road accident, so even the same stories)

 

 God bless  you sir ,   ignorance  is bliss, sleep  and dream well ..

 

[Lacessit]

11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I was thinking the girls in the Phnom Penh bars were in their 20s while the girls in Chiang Mai bars tend to be in their 40s.

Clearly your thinking runs along different lines to my thinking.

While there I met a really nice girl who was 30, still younger than the girls I would meet in Chiang Mai.

(Husband died in road accident, so even the same stories)

Just wondering what the incidence of HIV in Cambodia is compared to Chiang Mai. My guess is younger girls would be less aware of precautionary measures.

Some of the stories about dead or violent/drunk/gambling husbands are actually true.

[chrisinth]

On 4/23/2019 at 10:32 PM, 55Jay said:

 

Seriously though, agree with you completely.  Hanging around the daily drinking crowd will wear you down.  I did it for about 9 months and had to wave the white flag.  It's unsustainable. 

IMO it all depends on the person and the way that person sees the world. I stopped drinking alcohol on the 1st May 1999 and was living in Pattaya at the time. I never changed my routine though apart from substituting my beer for soft drinks. Same bars, same clubs, same drinking partners, same girls. Ribbing from the mates strengthened, not weakened my resolve.

 

All depends how much you want it, how long it is before you stop making excuses before you take the next drink.

 

And just to clarify about my drinking, I was averaging about 12 bottles of beer, every day (seldom get sick) for two years while living full time in Pattaya. Maybe not quite as much for the previous 23 years, but lived in a world of 'work hard, play harder' for that entire time. And believe me, the play time was hard.................

 

After stopping the drinking, the wife & I opened a bar (which remained open for the next 12 years, 8 months & 4 days) so I most certainly didn't run away from it but rather embraced it. It may not work for everyone, but my advice is to face your fears head on. One day at a time to start with which will allow for long term planning in the future.

 

Good luck with it happy J, & the OP.......................

[Pattayabeerbacon]

3 hours ago, chrisinth said:

IMO it all depends on the person and the way that person sees the world. I stopped drinking alcohol on the 1st May 1999 and was living in Pattaya at the time. I never changed my routine though apart from substituting my beer for soft drinks. Same bars, same clubs, same drinking partners, same girls. Ribbing from the mates strengthened, not weakened my resolve.

 

All depends how much you want it, how long it is before you stop making excuses before you take the next drink.

 

And just to clarify about my drinking, I was averaging about 12 bottles of beer, every day (seldom get sick) for two years while living full time in Pattaya. Maybe not quite as much for the previous 23 years, but lived in a world of 'work hard, play harder' for that entire time. And believe me, the play time was hard.................

 

After stopping the drinking, the wife & I opened a bar (which remained open for the next 12 years, 8 months & 4 days) so I most certainly didn't run away from it but rather embraced it. It may not work for everyone, but my advice is to face your fears head on. One day at a time to start with which will allow for long term planning in the future.

 

Good luck with it happy J, & the OP.......................

 

Pattaya is fun but too easy to over do.

I cant  control my self there, Alot of the guys living there are from oil rig/mining/fishing or FIFO atmosphere jobs.

 

They can handle life with no intellectual stimulation.

 

Loving off a low budget in Pattaya turn people into raging alcoholics, Most of them no longer even get regular sex imeither, They would prefer to sit and drink non stop.....

[Benmart]

I wish you peace, love and serenity. There are AA meetins in Phnom Pehn and on Skype if you ever want to go down that path.

[Pattayabeerbacon]

7 hours ago, Benmart said:

I wish you peace, love and serenity. There are AA meetins in Phnom Pehn and on Skype if you ever want to go down that path.

Thanks, Three days sober today.

 

 

[scubascuba3]

Thanks, Three days sober today.
 
 

Do you listen to podcasts and stuff up there?

[Pattayabeerbacon]

9 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

11 hours ago, Pattayabeerbacon said:

Thanks, Three days sober today.
 
 

Do you listen to podcasts and stuff up there?

Can you recommend a good one,

[scubascuba3]

Can you recommend a good one,

Yes depends what country you are from. Get a smartphone if you haven't got one, although a tablet is fine and pretty sure is available on a PC. Download an app called Podcast Addict, it's free. Then you can search, I'm from the UK and regularly listen to, the Frank Skinner show, Ricky Gervais show, BBC Radio 5 Live Science in particular Dr Karl's weekly podcast. An interesting one to listen to is "the doorstep murder".
It's trial and error finding podcasts you like.

Also if from UK you may enjoy the LBC app. It has catch-up so you can listen to any program after. I listen to Iain Dale, Nick Abbott, Nick Ferrari, Nigel Farage.

Also Youtube is excellent for old TV series or anything really

[Berkshire]

On 4/24/2019 at 5:25 PM, Pattayabeerbacon said:

I was in Pattaya 1 week bangkok 2 weeks and arrived in cambodia earlier this week.

 

Ive been in and out of thailand for 11 years, I have drank in excess of 2 Million baht in thailand , I have nothing to show for that accept last trip i began losing my mind and experiencing the beggining stages of jaundice.

 

Bangkok helped first but i started to drink chang beer in the mornings, then the afternoon then i was drinking chang all day every day and started losing touch with reality.

 

 

Third day here in the cambodian countryside side with no alcohol, No social life either but drying out is not supposed to be fun is it.

Although I don't think that I can ever become an alcoholic, I do recall a line from the movie "Flight" (Denzel Washington) which is a true story.  So the main character is in prison after flying a commercial airline while drunk.  While in prison, he says that he's happy to be "finally free," i.e., free from booze.  It's good to see that you're choosing Cambodia rather than prison.

[Pattayabeerbacon]

6 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Although I don't think that I can ever become an alcoholic, I do recall a line from the movie "Flight" (Denzel Washington) which is a true story.  So the main character is in prison after flying a commercial airline while drunk.  While in prison, he says that he's happy to be "finally free," i.e., free from booze.  It's good to see that you're choosing Cambodia rather than prison.

I didnt realise i was an alcoholic till i admitted i had a problem.

[Pattayabeerbacon]

Ok so five days sober today.

 

Whilst i am very calm i am also very unmotivated and scared of what lies ahead.

 

Doing nothing is fueling the fire.

 

I will be like colonel kurtz soon, completely mad in the cambodian boonies.

 

 

 

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