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You guys think there is a big difference from having an SETV versus visa exempt when crossing via land border?

 

I ask because by the time I get to a thai consulate or an agency to process the visa for me, it will be thursday or friday, which means I will not receive the visa until next week. Meanwhile if visa exempt is not much different, I can do that as early as tomorrow morning (I land in Phnom Penh at ~9:30pm and then I'd just hire a car to drive me directly to the friendliest border in Cambodia, not sure where that is yet but looks like it'll be a 5-7h drive)

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5 minutes ago, Yeahbutwhytho said:

Why did you sign that form? They're going to force you back to canada and make you pay for the flight yourself

It is very unlikely he will be forced back to Canada. Usually, the default is to return him to Phnom Penh (his last embarkation point) but this is negotiable with the airline (assuming your airline representative is around to discuss it with).

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1 hour ago, borderlesss said:

I have already started looking at Thai Elite to rid myself of these problems once and for all but that seems to take a few weeks at least.

 

With the Thailand Elite visa, a single 1-day overstay is most likely problem, but a 14-day overstay is problematic.  

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1086957-elite-visa-after-overstay/?tab=comments#comment-13895656

 

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18 minutes ago, BritTim said:

A major motive for the SETV is to husband your visa exempts by land, using them only when you have no reasonable alternative. There are a various options for a (faster) SETV.  If you go to Ho Chi Minh City, Hanoi or Saannakhet by tomorrow morning, you will have a visa by Friday afternoon. Of these, Savannakhet is the best option for entering Thailand by land. Unfortunately, flights to Savannakhet have become limited. If you can persuade your airline to fly you to Vientiane rather than back to Phnom Penh (usually negotiable if they fly there) it will be easier. Another option is to travel to Kota Bharu (Malaysia) where you can apply for a visa on Sunday, receiving your passport back with visa on Monday afternoon. If you feel none of this is reasonable, by all means burn a visa exempt by land. It should be no problem. Just be aware that you are using a valuable resource that you might need more urgently at a later time.

I see what you are saying. In my case since I'm going to immediately start the Thai elite process, I think it's reasonable to burn one of these. 

 

Since I now have an overstay stamp and a 'denied entry' stamp on whatever it is, I do have concerns I'll be able to get in via land border even. Is that concern warranted? I mean are the IOs at land borders just blindly stamping people through?

 

Alternatively I could be at the Thai embassy in ho chi Minh tomorrow morning when it opens. A bit concerned since I've gotten an SETV here before + the 2 new ugly stamps. 

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7 minutes ago, borderlesss said:

 

Alternatively I could be at the Thai embassy in ho chi Minh tomorrow morning when it opens. A bit concerned since I've gotten an SETV here before + the 2 new ugly stamps. 

What are the current requirements of obtaining a SETV at HCMC ?

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13 minutes ago, borderlesss said:

Alternatively I could be at the Thai embassy in ho chi Minh tomorrow morning when it opens. A bit concerned since I've gotten an SETV here before + the 2 new ugly stamps. 

Almost certainly HCMC won't allow you entry (unless you already have a Viet multi entry VISA).

I'd try a flight to Kuala Lumpur (or Cambodia or Laos).

 

Please post back what happens if you try HCMC.

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52 minutes ago, borderlesss said:

You guys think there is a big difference from having an SETV versus visa exempt when crossing via land border?

 

I ask because by the time I get to a thai consulate or an agency to process the visa for me, it will be thursday or friday, which means I will not receive the visa until next week. Meanwhile if visa exempt is not much different, I can do that as early as tomorrow morning (I land in Phnom Penh at ~9:30pm and then I'd just hire a car to drive me directly to the friendliest border in Cambodia, not sure where that is yet but looks like it'll be a 5-7h drive)

Ask whether you can fly from Bangkok to Chiang Mai , as they arent so strict in CM ?

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3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Almost certainly HCMC won't allow you entry (unless you already have a Viet multi entry VISA).

I'd try a flight to Kuala Lumpur.

 

Please post back what happens if you try HCMC.

Do you mean HCM is unlikely to give me a SETV? Or you mean Vietnam won't let me in?

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4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Ask whether you can fly from Bangkok to Chiang Mai , as they arent so strict in CM ?

When you get detained at bkk airport you are only allowed to leave bkk airport via the airline you flew in on. In my case that is Cambodia air and the only flight they have is back to PNM.

 

There is someone here from some random African airline that only comes to BKK every 4 days and they had to wait that long. Confirmed they take this policy seriously.

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