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BANGKOK 19 July 2019 23:24
Jonathan Fairfield

Why the Chinese are infinitely more important than Western tourists to Thailand

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8 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

One woman asked how much and then opened an attache case and took out stacks of US dollars and paid cash for it. 

Money laundering 101. Good luck depositing it.

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Out of curiosity, do they smuggle their wares through the Chinese customs, or do they just add markup to the price they get back in China? Like the good old days in CCCP when you could buy half of Moscow with a pair of Levi's.
Smuggle mostly.

Another reason they often buy luxury watches and co is to get money out of china.

Credit card transactions aren't limited yet, so you can buy a 100k usd item, return it to the dealer and ask for cash back or just resell it with a loss.

Let's see how much they spend when all these loopholes will be closed



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well, after reading more replies, it does seem more likely that they are simply well funded plunderers...

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Don't see much for there money reaching the villages unlike westerns support 

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As population of potential tourists of course the Chinese are more important - a much overdue discovery.  There are more of them, they reside much closer and their income levels are expanding rapidly each year (been to London, Paris or Rome lately?).  The “West” is the exact opposite, there are fewer, the income levels particularly among the middle class are being crushed, and it’s a long unpleasant flight.  There was never a day in Thailand when penniless retirees and back packers were considered valued tourists (or valued anything).  At best these groups were tolerated.  I don’t think anyone cares where a tourist comes from.  Tourism at the ground level is a business of individuals.  All that the hotel, bar, restaurant etc care about is the size of the individual tourists wallet.  They aren’t dealing with whole populations.  Sure there will be Mandarin speaking Thai’s in hotels and high end shops etc ... what does that matter?  Don’t worry, English will remain a major tourist language the Indians have that covered for you.

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6 minutes ago, brianbbb said:

Don't see much for there money reaching the villages unlike westerns support 

there you go!  the Chinese remain as the anonymous rabble - the tourist

 

The westerner, by becoming personal, and helping the locals -   have gotten under the Thai skin, and the tourist tag has become Secondary

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lol... this must be appalling to those farangs who want to feel important.

 

The premise of the article is absurd. When as a westerner I was important to Thailand, whenever that was, did I get some special privilege? My coffee was still the same price as everyone elses.  I guess I missed that farang VIP treatment. 

 

fwiw- Whenever I go out in Chiangmai or even to HongKong and some mainland Chinese guy spits in the street or on the floor of the mall or a Chinese family begins screaming the locals don't react as if they are important but rather as if they are rude.

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19 hours ago, Benroon said:

I'm struggling to understand the significance of that ? Whether they stay here a month or a day, whether they tour extensively or stay in their room, they are outspending westerners on a presumably pro rata basis ?

 

It's just confirmation that western sex pests with less money than the wealthier and less sex pesty Chinese are going to be asked to jump through a few more hoops or go home.

They have already started to infiltrate the GoGo bars, and seem to be in ‘playboy’ mode throwing it around like a oil sheik.  

 

I can see the headlines now in 5 to 10 years time, ‘Chinese man barricades himself inside condo’, Chinese man gets shot for dating cops girlfriend etc, etc, and the list goes on. 

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now there is one thing that does make the Chinese important in a sense...

 

 

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20 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

Probably not as English is an important language in China.  English speakers in China is over 200 million and rising, with 50 million secondary school children now studying the language

Regardless of what you read, almost no one speaks English in China, even in hotels. Once you leave the airport, you're largely on your own. Maybe that's why there are few independent travelers there...

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20 hours ago, Wilsonandson said:

Will this lead to Manadrin becoming the prefered 2nd language in Thailand?

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The daughter of my "across the street" neighbor has been in China for three years now learning the language. When she comes back she usually works as a tour guide in Chiang Mai.

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21 hours ago, otherstuff1957 said:

I've done some work for companies that cooperate with TAT and saw and interesting TAT report a couple of years ago. 

 

The Chinese do spend, on average, about 20% or more than Europeans/Americans/Aussies.  However, a breakdown of where they spend their money was very interesting.  It is traditional for Chinese tourists to return to China with expensive gifts for their friends and relatives.  This is a 'face' thing so they are often willing to spend a big chunk of their total expenditures on these gifts. 

 

So, what do they buy?  They go to the high-end stores on Suk and buy brand-name stuff.

 

Unlike Western tourists, they don't usually patronize small, local shops, smaller guesthouses or local restaurants.  Consequently, even though they spend more money, much, if not most of their money goes to foreign companies and their wealthy Thai partners.  A relatively small portion of their spending goes directly to local merchants and local SME businesses. 

 

The tourists that benefit Thai SMEs the most are actually the much-maligned backpackers!

Right ON !!!

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