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BANGKOK 26 June 2019 11:13
Jonathan Fairfield

Why the Chinese are infinitely more important than Western tourists to Thailand

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If another disaster like the Phoenix happens again it might change overnight..The Chinese are like sheep who all follow eachother.

 

I wouldn't dare to invest in an extra airport terminal for the chinese...

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1 hour ago, KittenKong said:

As mentioned, tourist arrival figures are largely meaningless as a retired expat who lives here permanently and supports a house and car and family counts for exactly the same as a Chinaman who is just here for a weekend on a zero-dollar tour.

 

What is really important is the total spend per tourist, and what they spend it on. But I wonder how many Thais understand that?

Weren't zero-dollar tours banned a long time ago?

 

"Chinaman"?

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1 hour ago, Bang Bang said:

Isaan women, those that not like Thai man because too much butterfly, I only give money my bluther, him good heart take care me when you not here?

 

Cute.  May I assume you speak Thai fluently? 

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1 hour ago, Destiny1990 said:

That’s true Look around at the 7/11 or at the big c..

White guys with only  2 Leo beer cans and some deodorant. Chinese usually with  2 or 3 baskets totally full with stuff.

However i do think Chinese like visiting Thailand because they can see many farangs here but if we are all getting forced out of Thailand then Thailand looses its farang feature thus dissatisfied Chinese😃

"White guys with only  2 Leo beer cans and some deodorant".

Deodorant? 

 

Edit: Just seen that you beat me to it, Benroom.

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43 minutes ago, amexpat said:

I believe the term is bang-worthy.  Bangable is yet to be determined until you try. 

 

You ought to have replied to Bang Bang Post #10, the originator of the term you reference.

As an aside, I suggest that with a name like Bang Bang, he is probably able to determine bangability / bang worthiness  from a distance of 30 feet.. 

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1 hour ago, Destiny1990 said:

Hmmmm before i reply this i first need see ur real profile picture.

Just take it from me I knock em bandy !

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1 hour ago, Benroon said:

I'm struggling to understand the significance of that ? Whether they stay here a month or a day, whether they tour extensively or stay in their room, they are outspending westerners on a presumably pro rata basis ?

 

It's just confirmation that western sex pests with less money than the wealthier and less sex pesty Chinese are going to be asked to jump through a few more hoops or go home.

I understand why you are questioning the validity of this when it comes to spending, but the short stays are a bit of a dream for the Government and its tourists associations who love to quote arrival numbers (though I'm not quite sure where Dan the blogger got his figures from). Hotel nights by nationality would see a distinct difference, though Chinese would still be top.

 

I've seen the hoardes of cheaper tourists that seem to typify the Chinese tourists, but I've also encountered the high spenders. I reckon 20% of Chinese tourists account for 80% of the expenditure (nothing to back this up, by the way, just a guess).

 

One other interesting point made by Dan is stating that the Chinese pay more for hotel rooms. Well, I have no idea where he's got this informnation from as the Chinese tour agents are known to negotiate very low prices for their group tours, the consolation for the hotel being that they get year-round trade. Independent travellers mainly use CTrip, where prices would be similar to Agoda or Booking.com. Again, perhaps it's that higher spending lower percentage he's referring to.

 

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2 hours ago, Benroon said:

The vest industry could be in trouble ?

I don't think so, once Thais stoop down to bringing in proper mainlander peasant level tourists sales should go up. Also new business opportunities for manufacturers of spit cups.

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2 hours ago, madmitch said:

These articles always fail to mention that the average stay of a Chinese visitor is significantly shorter tha the average stay of Western tourists and, in particular, Russians, who generally tend to stay in one place for their entire two to three week stay.

 I've not got it to hand but we were told at a meeting with hoteliers last year that average stay of Chinese tourists in Thailand is 9 days compared to 17 days from those travelling from Europe. But that could just be down down to the distance of travel. You're less likely to come to Thailand for say 9 days if you have to travel all the way from UK, Europe etc

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7 minutes ago, madmitch said:

One other interesting point made by Dan is stating that the Chinese pay more for hotel rooms. Well, I have no idea where he's got this informnation from as the Chinese tour agents are known to negotiate very low prices for their group tours, the consolation for the hotel being that they get year-round trade. Independent travellers mainly use CTrip, where prices would be similar to Agoda or Booking.com. Again, perhaps it's that higher spending lower percentage he's referring to.

 

They pack as many in a room as will fit. A good proportion of the group travellers are single females, the individual travellers tend to be couples. Therefore the extra revenue charged for, say, a third bed in a twin room results in higher room prices. Plus the organiser is likely to be in cahoots with the hotelier to bump prices for a share of the extra bunce.

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1 hour ago, amexpat said:

I believe the term is bang-worthy.  Bangable is yet to be determined until you try. 

 

I see where you are coming from. But I wasn't referring to actually cumming but if they're worth going for.

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2 hours ago, KittenKong said:

As mentioned, tourist arrival figures are largely meaningless as a retired expat who lives here permanently and supports a house and car and family counts for exactly the same as a Chinaman who is just here for a weekend on a zero-dollar tour.

 

What is really important is the total spend per tourist, and what they spend it on. But I wonder how many Thais understand that?

I think they understand 80 million times 6000 baht per day by 2030 and a much higher GDP than any 3 countries in the West.  Multiply 80 million times 60,000 baht and tell me what percent of that total is expat expenditure. 

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1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

"White guys with only  2 Leo beer cans and some deodorant".

Deodorant? 

 

Edit: Just seen that you beat me to it, Benroom.

I sure u can use some Deodorant because all ur posts are always fishy.

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