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2 Months before applying and 3 months after.

400,000 for the rest of the year.

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Reglementations and experiences are always interesting to read, but should not be considered as the only right way, which should de facto apply to everyone. 

 

The only right way is the one which the Immigration officer apply to you personally, at your specific Immigration office, on the specific day you present yourself. 

 

This is pitifully the reality. 

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Three months, not two months for a renewal in CM. 😞

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Did somebody ask the Immigration Officers in Chiang Rai directly - ehat is their interpretation of the new rule published above? In Chiang Mai IO I was told today that 800 000 can be seasoning 2 months only in the case of first application, all next times it should be 3 months.

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VF has the right answer. Stop buggering about trying to second guess if the IO you will be dealing with on any given day is going to know and apply the new police order or play silly buggers and ignore it because he can.

 

Shorten this thread (and the need for similar ones) and go for the unarguable 'universal' 3-months pre-seasoning. End of.

 

What's the worst that can happen? An IO having a giggle about the extra month at your expense? Losing face does not apply to foreigners, no matter how much some think that it does.

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From various reports, it depends on whether the Immigration Office you will use is aware of and follows the change, which was effective March 1, 2019.  I just had an email from someone that renewed at Chonburi (Pattaya) Immigration - Jomtien - with less than 3 months.  Also, Jomtien requires the applicant to sign a document acknowledging they must return in 90 days to show their bank book (to confirm it has remained at least 800,000 baht) - that document has a includes a copy of the new police orders stating 2 months before application (with no distinction between new application or renewal).

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Did mine yesterday at the Jomtein office, it was 2 months there, which was just as well as my 800K+ had only been in the bank 2 months and 2 weeks. . 

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On 5/8/2019 at 8:56 AM, niebla said:

Three months, not two months for a renewal in CM. 😞

so not following the instruction then, typical. 

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Just now, Pilotman said:

so not following the instruction then, typical. 

My understanding is that each office has wide discretion to add a local interpretation of the rules which then become, essentially, guidelines rather than instructions

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2 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said:

My understanding is that each office has wide discretion to add a local interpretation of the rules which then become, essentially, guidelines rather than instructions

if that is indeed the case, it's a pathetic way to go about applying a set of consistent, Nationwide immigration laws. 

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Just now, Pilotman said:

if that is indeed the case, it's a pathetic way to go about applying a set of consistent, Nationwide immigration laws. 

Haven't you seen the slogan "Amazing Thailand"?

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As a matter of interest.

People have to keep money in the bank for 4/5 months. 

What are they expected to live on if they cannot use there money?

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6 minutes ago, Deerculler said:

As a matter of interest.

People have to keep money in the bank for 4/5 months. 

What are they expected to live on if they cannot use there money?

Additional money.

That's why I've asserted that the recent onerous rule changes towards super seasoning on steroids is in EFFECT a crafty way to RAISE the financial requirements. 

Others have pushed back saying there was no raise in financial requirements, mostly people that have always just kept a static 800K anyway.

But I feel they're totally wrong. They were already meeting these crafty HIGHER levels. 

Also keep in mind for the rest of the year you aren't allowed to go one baht under 400K baht. That's part of the scheme to virtually RAISE the financial requirements.

This represents a MAJOR change, a major NEGATIVE change from the POV of retired expats using the 800K method. 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Pilotman said:

Did mine yesterday at the Jomtein office, it was 2 months there, which was just as well as my 800K+ had only been in the bank 2 months and 2 weeks. . 

To be clear, this was for a SUBSEQUENT extension, not an INITIAL extension, correct? That matters because it was already only two months for INITIAL extensions (and three for subsequent). The rule change made it two months for both initial and subsequent ones.

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8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

To be clear, this was for a SUBSEQUENT extension, not an INITIAL extension, correct? That matters because it was already only two months for INITIAL extensions (and three for subsequent). The rule change made it two months for both initial and subsequent ones.

correct, this was my second extension. 

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