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BANGKOK 26 May 2019 16:06
theboogeyman

Do you need to have your passport with you when staying at hotels in Bangkok?

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17 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 Or put that another way, all hotels etc., in Thailand are required by law to advise Immigration what foreigners are staying in the premises, even short stays. 

Plus there have been many reports of hotels being fined for being lax with this subject. 

Yes I’ve heard that they’ve recently started getting tougher about that which is the only reason why I asked in the first place.  In the past I’ve never needed it on leisure trips but times are changing.  I should know better I’m retired military and a former frequent traveler and I almost always traveled like a civilian because of my job but it’s been like 6 years now since I retired.  So I’m probably just getting complacent because I’ve been staying in the same place longer than I’ve ever stayed before.

 

Thanks for the replies everyone yes I’m just going to bring it with me whenever we go anywhere far away for more than a day. I know I should probably know better because there was a time when I was used to carrying my passport every where I went.  

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6 minutes ago, thedemon said:

Not in my experience and in any case I don't have a (sic) stamped departure chit.

If you're on a short term visit and residing at an international hotel you will absolutely require valid ID and your stamped departure chit.  I've better things to do than spread misinformation.  

 

 

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I have checked into a international hotel - Holiday Inn Soi 22 without passport, they accepted my driving licence - with some persuasion, my PP was in the Chinese embassy for visa so I had no choice, when I got passport back I asked if they needed it and they said no, with the recent "events" who knows if that is still possible, not worth taking the chance.

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1 minute ago, OneEyedPie said:

If you're on a short term visit and residing at an international hotel you will absolutely require valid ID and your stamped departure chit.  I've better things to do that spread misinformation.  

Maybe you do but I don't. Not all foreigners in Thailand have a TM6 in their passport which I presume is what you are referring to as a "stamped departure chit"

 

Whatever the law is regarding what ID is required by law to check-in to a hotel, the reality is that payment is their primary concern. Just because you have always had your passport with you is not proof that it is required. That is misinformation.

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11 minutes ago, thedemon said:

Maybe you do but I don't. Not all foreigners in Thailand have a TM6 in their passport which I presume is what you are referring to as a "stamped departure chit"

 

Whatever the law is regarding what ID is required by law to check-in to a hotel, the reality is that payment is their primary concern. Just because you have always had your passport with you is not proof that it is required. That is misinformation.

 

Thats a new one for me... Which Nationalities (Foreigners) do not have to fill out a TM6 form?

 

Upon check in at Thailand I have always been asked for a copy of my Passport.

I can't say for certain that they also copy the TM6 card in every hotel I've stayed at, but they take the Passport away and make a photocopy of it.

 

A hotel not doing this is breaking the law. 

 

Thus, it may not happen all the time, as we are aware that laws are often broken here. But if the Op is going to be staying at a semi decent hotel or upwards (i.e. 3* and up) the probability his stay would be refused is increased if he is unable to present a passport. 

 

Thus: Alluding to the point that the Op may not require his passport would not make good advice. 

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8 minutes ago, thedemon said:

Maybe you do but I don't. Not all foreigners in Thailand have a TM6 in their passport which I presume is what you are referring to as a "stamped departure chit"

 

Whatever the law is regarding what ID is required by law to check-in to a hotel, the reality is that payment is their primary concern. Just because you have always had your passport with you is not proof that it is required. That is misinformation.

I can only assume that your definition of international hotels differs from mine.  

 

I did state valid ID or passport and the international hotels will absolutely require either or and your TM6 if you're on a short term visit. 

 

Please try checking into the Hilton on Sukhumvit without your ID as a test run and see if you manage to secure accommodation for the night then come back to TV and report your findings.  

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Thanks for the replies everyone yes I’m just going to bring my passport with me whenever we go anywhere far away for more than a day. I know I should probably know better because there was a time when I was used to carrying my passport every where I went.  I just haven’t been getting out as much as I used to lately especially for more than a day.  And when I travel with my wife’s family no one ever asks to see my passport I think that probably had a lot to do with it.  This was probably a dumb question on my part.  I’ve just gotten to the point where I don’t carry it unless I’m going to immigration or something or need it for business.  But yeah I’m going to start carrying it whenever we travel far from home at least.  I’m thinking back to all the trips we’ve gone on when I left it at home and I’m thinking maybe I was just really lucky I didn’t need it during those times.  The last time I went to Bangkok I was visiting the embassy so obviously I always bring it with me for business stuff.  But I guess yeah I need to start carrying it with me even on fun trips far from home.  

 

I’m good I don’t need anymore advice thanks I’m going to bring it with me whenever we go out of town at least.  But I’m definitely not carrying it around my local city every day there’s no reason to unless I need it for business or unless I’m going to immigration because I live in a really small city and I’m usually never far from home if I’m local.  

 

Here in Korat the cops never mess with you unless you are blatantly doing something wrong and even if the cops did stop me close to home my passport isn’t more than a few minutes away in my house.  But I never have to worry about the cops around here they leave people alone as long as you’re not doing anything wrong.  Even when I went to the bank yesterday to take care of my pass book and get my bank statement printed I didn’t even need to bring my passport.  My bank branch knows me well they always see me once a month.  I even asked them about the VA Direct Deposit form and I’m probably going to do that new Direct Deposit thing through the VA because it’s looking like the VA can do it a lot easier than other government agencies.  My local SCB branch even filled in the bank information for me on my VA Direct Deposit form which I could have done myself and I’m going to recopy it in my legible hand writing but that was very helpful of them.  

 

Anyway thanks everyone I got it I’m good, I just asked a somewhat dumb question I guess.  I’ve just gotten used to being in the same place for to long and I’m getting a little complacent I guess.  I don’t travel as often as I used to.  

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3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Thats a new one for me... Which Nationalities (Foreigners) do not have to fill out a TM6 form?

 

Upon check in at Thailand I have always been asked for a copy of my Passport.

I can't say for certain that they also copy the TM6 card in every hotel I've stayed at, but they take the Passport away and make a photocopy of it.

 

A hotel not doing this is breaking the law. 

 

Thus, it may not happen all the time, as we are aware that laws are often broken here. But if the Op is going to be staying at a semi decent hotel or upwards (i.e. 3* and up) the probability his stay would be refused is increased if he is unable to present a passport. 

 

Thus: Alluding to the point that the Op may not require his passport would not make good advice. 

 

Well it may be new for you, but it isn't for anyone with permanent residence. They don't have a TM6 in their passport. So I guess it can't be a requirement after all, can it?

 

Perhaps you always carry your passport with you everywhere you go. Or perhaps you follow the Thaivisa experts top-tip to head down to your local photocopy shop to have a miniature laminated colour copy of your passport made and carry that. I don't know.

 

As shocking as it may be that (gasp) 3* and up hotels break the law, they must do because they always me to check-in and I never have my passport with me.

 

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, thedemon said:

 

Not in my experience and in any case I don't have a (sic) stamped departure chit.

So what is a stamped departure chit?

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2 minutes ago, thedemon said:

As shocking as it may be that (gasp) 3* and up hotels break the law, they must do because they always me to check-in and I never have my passport with me.

These are not international hotels that you refer, for example, Hilton, Accor Group, Hyatt and Four Seasons.

 

Anyway, I won't labour the point any further and have succinctly provided knowledgeable and reliable information when it comes to the big players in Thailand.  You definitely will not secure accommodation without the aforementioned documentation whether you've paid upfront or have a reservation as it's the law in LOS and the international players abide by the letter of said law.   

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Oh man what have I started???  I’m good I’m going to bring my passport whenever we go out on a long trip for more than a day.  I just asked kind of a dumb question is all.  I haven’t been getting out as much lately as I used to is all.  And this is the longest time I’ve ever gone in my life without flying all over the world.  But I understand I need to bring my passport especially if we’re going to be out of town for more than one night.  I got it.  Looks like I stirred up the online hornets nest unwittingly.  I didn’t mean to do that.  

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9 minutes ago, scorecard said:

So what is a stamped departure chit?

He’s just talking about the TM-6 Departure Card.  

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7 minutes ago, OneEyedPie said:

These are not international hotels that you refer, for example, Hilton, Accor Group, Hyatt and Four Seasons.

 

Anyway, I won't labour the point any further and have succinctly provided knowledgeable and reliable information when it comes to the big players in Thailand.  You definitely will not secure accommodation without the aforementioned documentation whether you've paid upfront or have a reservation as it's the law in LOS and the international players abide by the letter of said law.   

 

Sure I can check-in to any of those hotels without either my passport or my stamped departure chit. Absolutely.

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6 minutes ago, theboogeyman said:

Oh man what have I started???

You've started nothing, boogeyman.  This forum is a great source of pooled information and just like, for example, TripAdvisor, we peruse all the posts and pick up the common thread.  

 

We now know that Somchai's Boutique Apartments at 400 baht a night probably have a less rigid ID requirement than the Banyan Tree.  

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