webfact Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Toothless junta! Speedboats openly flouting law in Pattaya and officials do nothing Picture: Sophon TV Sophon TV had some scathing observations on the military regime's use of Article 44 to clean things up in Pattaya. They had nothing but contempt for the government installed local mayor especially when it came to regulating the activity of speedboats on the beach. They said that the government started a crackdown in Pattaya on May 8th last year. The authorities were meant to be solving problems of encroachment, improving traffic rules, reining in beach vendors and ensuring that all speedboats used the Bali Hai port to send tourists to their destinations. The last of these was supposed to be subject to fines of up to 5,000 baht. Now it is a shambles. Picture: Sophon TV STV showed that no one gives a hoot about the law with dozens of boats taking Chinese and other foreign tourists directly from the beach. In addition tour buses were snarling up and polluting the recently renovated beach area by taking the tourists there. They posed the question: There was an initial effect when changes were promised - so why has the situation now deteriorated to being just as bad as before? Source: Sophon TV -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-05-09 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverell Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Same same but different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, webfact said: so why has the situation now deteriorated to being just as bad as before? Brown envelopes have changed hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youlike Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, webfact said: They posed the question: There was an initial effect when changes were promised - so why has the situation now deteriorated to being just as bad as before? Maybe some brown envelopes changed the mind of the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, webfact said: The last of these was supposed to be subject to fines of up to 5,000 baht. I suppose they have payed the fees.....i mean fines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Hardly fair to criticize the Junta, they have their hands full fixing the elections and solving the killer smog problem in the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeEyedRaven Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, webfact said: so why has the situation now deteriorated to being just as bad as before? The answer is incredibly simple. Because there is a total lack of respect for the law, combined with those who are supposed to enforce it, will look the other way when given a bribe. Until such time (which is unlikely to be anytime soon round here), as Thailand has real law enforcement and the penalties are given out continuously, operators will continue to take the piss and pick up from wherever they think most advantageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 When I go for my morning exercise walk along the Beach Rd promenade not only are the speed boats lined up side by side churning away & polluting the bay area, -the traffic jams of tour buses are also a nuisance while they also pollute the air. No longer is it a place of tranquility. - Just as well call this area one big parking lot for boats & buses with shouting tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, ThreeEyedRaven said: operators will continue to take the piss You should go higher up the chain. Maybe the buck stops with the "" government installed local mayor"". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Yes our fake sand bag beach is nothing more than a boat launch,but it pales in comparison to our beach rd /freeway.....The Thailand money machine just keeps on belching out diesel and 2 stroke exhaust...cough cough !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 ....and I bet the “city officials” ( appointed by the junta) have never walked early morning ( 8am) or anytime during the day to observe the masses of polluting buses and speed boats or the debris laying around. These fat cats never have walked on Pattaya sidewalks that are like an obstacle course full of holes, construction debris, sleeping soi dogs, illegal vendor stands, missing cement tiles. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unamazedloso Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 spineless i believe is the correct term. Don't worry. Blame the tourists. Funny because its the lack of respect savage nature of the thais is what's driving tourists away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaikahuna Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 One must first come to understand that to the Thais, laws are merely suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggy Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, ThreeEyedRaven said: The answer is incredibly simple. Because there is a total lack of respect for the law, combined with those who are supposed to enforce it, will look the other way when given a bribe. Until such time (which is unlikely to be anytime soon round here), as Thailand has real law enforcement and the penalties are given out continuously, operators will continue to take the piss and pick up from wherever they think most advantageous. Well said, pretty much spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaitero Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Well, I quess the bali hai port can not digest so much boats and these boats i quess are too important for the tourism so here we are for now.. We are not living in western country where temporary situations goes orderly manner by written temporary orders and Laws. Thais just ignore the orders until there is a solution.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Vacuum said: Brown envelopes have changed hands? 1st question. Well just consider who appointed the Mayor? Next, consider 1000 baht per boat per day as ensuring these activities continue is a nice earner for some. So who tells the police to enforce the law ? Who advises the mayor how to react. Go back to question 1 and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: They posed the question: There was an initial effect when changes were promised - so why has the situation now deteriorated to being just as bad as before? Because this is Thailand. And that's the way they roll.... on almost every topic under the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Pattaya28 said: You should go higher up the chain. Maybe the buck stops with the "" government installed local mayor"". Not much point in going higher, the one at the top is probably as useless as the person who "installed" him. Mayor Sonthaya Khunpluem is a mate of the PM and was politically appointed to garner votes and support prior to the election. Nothing to do with the betterment of Pattaya. Previously Sonthaya was political adviser in the office of the PM. He is patriarch of a wealthy political clan. This might partly explain why Pattaya is going to the dogs so far as pollution, buses and speedboats is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borzandy Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 3 hours ago, webfact said: Speedboats openly flouting law in Pattaya and officials do nothing Officials are only looking for foreigner taking Thais job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30la Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Too many to say someone tries, maybe they received a special permit from the government (Junta)!???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 4 hours ago, webfact said: They had nothing but contempt for the government installed local mayor especially when it came to regulating the activity of speedboats on the beach. While said local mayor is, instead, focussed with zeal and gusto on regulating the activities of those who, in his eyes, are committing really serious crimes on the beach like placing a cigarette between their lips and then applying a flame to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPKANKAN Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, thaitero said: Well, I quess the bali hai port can not digest so much boats and these boats i quess are too important for the tourism so here we are for now.. We are not living in western country where temporary situations goes orderly manner by written temporary orders and Laws. Thais just ignore the orders until there is a solution.. When we used it 2 months ago, the ferry ticket office was empty and shut down and only touts were about there!! ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Thailand said: Hardly fair to criticize the Junta, they have their hands full fixing the elections and solving the killer smog problem in the north. yeah i wonder why he quoted only seven days for smog but needed a few months to count ballots.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: Toothless junta! Forgot brainless, boring and xenophobic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder26 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 What Junta did was cleaning the vendors and killing fun. Now the beach is a disgrace with hundreds of boats roaming around and polluting the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, OJAS said: placing a cigarette between their lips and then applying a flame to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 6 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said: The answer is incredibly simple. Because there is a total lack of respect for the law, combined with those who are supposed to enforce it, will look the other way when given a bribe. Until such time (which is unlikely to be anytime soon round here), as Thailand has real law enforcement and the penalties are given out continuously, operators will continue to take the piss and pick up from wherever they think most advantageous. it will snow prior to that happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain 776 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Yes...same same and its been going on for a year since they are all supposed to be leaving from Bali Hai Peir. Same with the motorbike rentals at Soi 7-8 on Beach Road and at the 13 Sois.......WHY are they allowed to take EVERY PARKING SPOT on Beach Road and at Soi 13, 13-1 and 13-2 on Beach Road and the whole lower end of the Soi..........been like that for at least 10 yrs that I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Bali Hai pier cannot cope with the number of boats, busses and tourists. The boat operators took a stand, deciding to run their businesses how they want to, instead if how an unelected, appointed body of officials told them to. Good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 7 hours ago, webfact said: They posed the question: There was an initial effect when changes were promised - so why has the situation now deteriorated to being just as bad as before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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