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Italian expat faces recklessness causing death charge over fatal boat collision

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13 hours ago, Aussieroaming said:

I wonder who was actually at fault and whether either had their maritime licence. One thing guaranteed is that the Italian is guilty unless he was squeaky clean and can prove it.

 

 

Maritime licence, LOL.

Since when was a licence required for cars, m'bikes or boats for a farang to hire in LOS?

At least you probably got the last sentence right.

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After such a claimed fatal collision there has been an express repair job done WOW.

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13 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Who hit who, and from what points on the boats???   I don't think the article actually details that....

Can see from the photo posted the boat was collided taking in water. It is not a motorized boat so shouldn’t be the one colliding . Compensation is for the family to have closure and not pursue the case any more. 1.6 million for loss of life is cheap and affordable. The alternative is much worse. 

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11 minutes ago, Odisan said:


The Mark I eyeball usually works.

 

That's why all boats must have a 24-hour watch. Period.
Without it, you won't get insurance and then, theoretically, you shouldn't put to sea. 

There are 'rules of the road' and need to be complied with. They're designed to avoid this very thing.

Whether either party knew about these actual rules or not is kinda irrelevant (but they should); both parties should have done everything possible to avoid collision. 

“I am still waiting for the forensic police to conclude their investigation. That may take about a month. They are very busy but said they would try to complete their investigation as soon as possible,” Capt Somkiet said.

  • Were both boats power-boats and both under power? (Power gives way to sail - or row boat).
  • What angle were they to each other? (Red gives way to green)
  • and so on.

 

Lot of information we don't know about.

 

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Okay, just seen the other comments and updates.

 

"That's why all boats must have a 24-hour watch. Period."

 

Rule number 5 also states that you must keep a look out by hearing, yet plenty of boats out there with fully enclosed bridges, including pilots, lifeboats, customs, etc.  Clearly the rules are not followed to the letter or we would not be able to have solo sailers, the truth is, people train themselves ro be able to keep watch to the degree necessary without actually being on deck watching all the time.  Not that this applies to this on shore case.

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1 hour ago, gunderhill said:

That's the Thai lame excuse motorcycles use, how about for once they actually accept responsibility for their  actions?

 

How about the guy with the motorboat accepts maritime law and gives way to boats approaching from the starboard side?  Nothing to do with which boat was bigger, all have same responsibility, but if you hit someone on the starboard, its much like rear ending in a car, automatic blame attribution.

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1 hour ago, mogandave said:

 


Outbounds. Never run one, but the Yamaha Helm Master is supposed to be the cats...

 

 

Nice, ideal for fishing.

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Nice, ideal for fishing.


Exactly, you can run the boat from the tower (not me) or run the boat while you’re on fish, no need to take turns...

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7 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 


Exactly, you can run the boat from the tower (not me) or run the boat while you’re on fish, no need to take turns...

 

 

Yeah, could be a lot safer for some people, pulling lobster pots for instance, however I can also imagine it in the wrong hands, the motor cruiser owner with his feet up and a beer in his hand watching a bit of TV.

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Yeah, could be a lot safer for some people, pulling lobster pots for instance, however I can also imagine it in the wrong hands, the motor cruiser owner with his feet up and a beer in his hand watching a bit of TV.


Always a few that ruin it for everyone...

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14 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

 

On one side you have a not so big but fast fishing boat :

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On the other side you have a slow low wooden rowing boat !

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And members asking who hit who ??? :blink:

 

Navigations rules say that the boat overtaking another must change its route to avoid collision, and in crossings a motor boat must give way to less maneuverable boats.

 

We don't know details, but in open sea a motor boat is usually at fault if collision with a rowing or sailing boat.

That’s pretty correct my member fellow.

it would be good if half the posters here had a damn clue about nautical rules. Might save a load of rubbish being posted ... like my post lol 😝 

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Missed the part that says wooden row boat. Looks like along

long tail with motor ..... it’d be a mo fo go far using only oars 

 

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15 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

What chance would an older man have not to get hit by a much bigger and heavier boat?

Jump over board

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, DJ54 said:

Missed the part that says wooden row boat. Looks like along

long tail with motor ..... it’d be a mo fo go far using only oars 

 

 

I think you will find that it actually looks like a long tail WITHOUT a motor, which is not a long tail, by the way.

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He shouldn't be worried - the c**t who killed my driver and 2 customers by dangerous driving got a 2 year suspended sentence and a 5000 baht fine.

Oh wait, he's a farang...

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