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15 hours ago, sambum said:

"errrrrr via the pictures ?" What "via the pictures"? I can only see one picture.

Here is another one :

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Look the location of the damage, clearly it just ran into the dock!

 

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On 5/9/2019 at 9:12 PM, Isaanbiker said:

The Italian seems to have a yacht/boat that should have the right instruments to see other vehicles on the ocean while he's steering his craft. You can hardly blame the poor fisherman for not having any nautical instruments on board, can you? 

 

   Anyway, you can/must call it recklessness driving/steering when his boat hits a much smaller one.

 

   What chance would an older man have not to get hit by a much bigger and heavier boat? The Italian was of course not trying to kill anybody, and he just wanted to enjoy his hobby.

 

   Besides the 200 K for the hospital, the family is also asking for 1.5 million baht compensation for the poor bloke's death.

 

     It was a preventable accident, not knowing the law on the oceans, but I'd think that you should always be aware of what's in front of you. 

 

     

 

  

 

   

A small wooden boat sitting low in the water would probably not show up on radar if that is the instrument you are referring to. 

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11 hours ago, sambum said:

These are the traditional water craft that I've seen in Esan - I believe they are called "longboats", but my wife calls them "dragon boats". I've seen them having races and gazed on in wonder at the physical effort required - especially in the Thailand heat. I've been here for many years now, and never seen the type of craft that you refer to. 

Anyway, this discussion is going nowhere, so before you start to give me more Thai lessons, or detention for not doing my homework, I will say goodnight and have pleasant dreams of life on your ocean wave! 

 

Traditional boat races thailand

 

Dragon boats ars traditional Chinese boats however they are now found throughout the world, I believe they are an olympic event, but they also have zero relavance to this topic. 

 

The boats I am talking about are calked kolae boats and originate in Thailand and Malaysia, they are not from Isaan though, they are from the south.  The extended rowlocks seen on some, such as the one in this accident, allows rowing while standing.

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1 hour ago, 5633572526 said:

A small wooden boat sitting low in the water would probably not show up on radar if that is the instrument you are referring to. 

 

On shore, where this occured, it would be in breach of maritime law to rely on anything other than eyes and ears.

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3 hours ago, whaleboneman said:

Why is the damage on the port aft then?

 

Did I phrase that wrongly?  The boat was coming from the starboard, the direction maritime law states you must yield to, of course a collision with a boat coming from the starboard would be hit on its port side.

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4 hours ago, LawrenceN said:

I see two possibilities: 1) The reporter inaccurately called it a longtail; 2) The editor stuck in a stock photo of a little Thai boat. Or both. We don't really know if the photo shows the actual boat involved in the accident. I don't see much damage. Does anybody have better info from previous reliable reports?

 

I expect it was the former as a lot of people say longtail for kolae's regardless of whether they have been turned into longtails or not.

 

As for you not being able to see damage, did you notice that its underwater?  I expect the larger boat went over the top of it.

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2 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

Here is another one :

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Well done, clearly a rowboat with raised rowlocks and nowhere large enough for an engine nor a broken engine mount.

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Well done, clearly a rowboat with raised rowlocks and nowhere large enough for an engine nor a broken engine mount.


The rectangular blue thing in the photo is the secret underwater engine compartment.

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2 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 


The rectangular blue thing in the photo is the secret underwater engine compartment.

 

 

That's exactly right, its known as the pond skater, the modern version of the seagull, so small and light it doesn't break the surface tension of the wated.

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If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

 

No one "needs" to be driving a boat for "pleasure".

 

He wasn't fishing for food.

 

He wasn't going from Point A to Point B for transportation.

 

Another rich idiot who thinks he's superior to locals.

 

LOOK AT ME!  I'M ON A BOAT!  I'M RICHER THAN YOU.

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3 hours ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

Dragon boats ars traditional Chinese boats however they are now found throughout the world, I believe they are an olympic event, but they also have zero relavance to this topic. 

 

The boats I am talking about are calked kolae boats and originate in Thailand and Malaysia, they are not from Isaan though, they are from the south.  The extended rowlocks seen on some, such as the one in this accident, allows rowing while standing.

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To be honest, the "kolae" looks substantially different to the "prowed" boat in the picture above. I would also suggest that the kolae looks more like a craft that would be used in forest rivers collecting firewood rather than at sea collecting the oceans' bounty!

 

And I only put in the photos and narrative re the "dragon boats" to let you know that I have been to other parts of Thailand rather than just the "tourist traps" However, as I have only been to the South of Thailand once on a visa run, and am in no hurry to get back, that would possibly explain why I have never seen a kolae! 

 

And to save you the trouble of further explanation of maritime facts and fiction (e.g. the difference between a boat and a ship etc) I suggest that this discussion has run its course (in much the same way as a young man was found dead in his car on Koh Samui, and there were more posts arguing what type of car he was in than the reasons for his death!), so let's get back on topic, and RIP to the old man - regardless of whose fault it was, at that age he didn't deserve to go that way.

 

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That's exactly right, its known as the pond skater, the modern version of the seagull, so small and light it doesn't break the surface tension of the wated.


And because it uses a hydrogen cell, there are no exhaust bubbles...

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If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
 
No one "needs" to be driving a boat for "pleasure".
 
He wasn't fishing for food.
 
He wasn't going from Point A to Point B for transportation.
 
Another rich idiot who thinks he's superior to locals.
 
LOOK AT ME!  I'M ON A BOAT!  I'M RICHER THAN YOU.


So you always wanted a boat and could never afford one?
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