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BANGKOK 16 June 2019 03:52

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2 hours ago, thecyclist said:

There is no accounting for taste of course, but I was referring more to the personality than to appearance. All regions, of course, have decent girls, but I found most of the gold diggers and 'Princesses' are fromthe northern and isan regions ;Even the bargirls/prostitutes in the south are not locals, but northern white (for Malaysians) and darkish isan for farangs :Do a tour of the Pukhet bars, and just like Pattaya, 80% isan. 

I don't know about Bangkok princesses but I would entirely agree that the Issarn mindset is predatory. There is a certain expectation that a poor, uneducated woman and her family will be taken care of and then some by the hapless farang. Nothing short of a lottery really. Meanwhile, the guy that ran out on her makes 11k a month - when he's working. My MiL was born in Issarn and my wife had to really spell it out for her that she had a great retirement plan and just stay out of her business.

 

I've nothing to do with bargirls for a decade but seems even then they had stopped trying to marry and just looking for big, fast money. Not many guys still marrying bargirls I suppose.

 

I'm really shocked at the sense of entitlement in the OP. Try to have quality time together, help her but by bit, build something for your retirement together and to leave something when we're gone. Living is damned expensive, especially old and retired. Selfish malcontent. Well, she can be alone now...better for her I guess.

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1 hour ago, SenorJorge said:

They all have their ups and downs.  The reason the bars are mostly esan women is that is the poorest part of thailand and many of them feel like they have no other choice.  Also I'm not sure which esan chicks you are talking about, I guess bar girls who have spent too much time out on pattaya beach with their farang play dates.  Usually esan girls are lighter skin than central and southern thais.  It's pattaya that makes them dark. In my experience all thai women who seek relationships with foreign men do so because you plain and simply have more resources than their thai counterparts.  That goes for the Muslim southerners and the thai Chinese from bangkok as well.  There's varying degrees of bad, you go from "I want you to pay me 80k baht per month to be your wife" to just wanting some dude with a stable pension under her roof.  But is that really any different than back home?  How many geezers with major health problems do you know in farangland with bombshell blondes who aren't forking over a pretty penny to them?  It's just the way things are.  It's not a Thai issue it's a global issue.

Not true :The poorest part of Thailand used to be(and might still be) the southernmost provinces. Isan has made a lot of progress :of course all rural areas are way behind Greater Bangkok. There cn be no doubt that poverty and lack of education play a major role in the decision of a girl to sell her body. That, nevertheless, does not explain the enormous discrepancies between the south and isan:Plenty of uneducated poor women in the south, but they hardly ever enter prostitution. It is something about their mentality as well :isanites and southerners get not along well. Initially I thought it was just central arrogance and prejudice when I was told over and over again by Bangkokians that isanites are lazy, stupid and dirty, but over the decades here I came to realize that there is some truth to it :On average isanites are lazier and dumber :years ago there was a report in the Bangkok Post on a comparative IQ study:the figures I remember are :average IQ:        Bangkok 96, South 94, Isan 89

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46 minutes ago, thecyclist said:

Not true :The poorest part of Thailand used to be(and might still be) the southernmost provinces. Isan has made a lot of progress :of course all rural areas are way behind Greater Bangkok. There cn be no doubt that poverty and lack of education play a major role in the decision of a girl to sell her body. That, nevertheless, does not explain the enormous discrepancies between the south and isan:Plenty of uneducated poor women in the south, but they hardly ever enter prostitution. It is something about their mentality as well :isanites and southerners get not along well. Initially I thought it was just central arrogance and prejudice when I was told over and over again by Bangkokians that isanites are lazy, stupid and dirty, but over the decades here I came to realize that there is some truth to it :On average isanites are lazier and dumber :years ago there was a report in the Bangkok Post on a comparative IQ study:the figures I remember are :average IQ:        Bangkok 96, South 94, Isan 89

I've been involved with esan people forever here.  They're hard workers and poor.  The reason I've discovered bangkokians have an issue with them really is overt racism.  They're ethnicall Lao and not Thai.  They don't like me much either.  Hispanic.

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sounds like a nut case to me. Get rid of her quickly. Pay her way back to see family in Thailand and when she leaves ....  you disappear forever.

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9 minutes ago, SenorJorge said:

They don't like me much either.  Hispanic.

You should get over to the moving to Latin America thread.  They'll love you there. 

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26 minutes ago, OneEyedPie said:

You should get over to the moving to Latin America thread.  They'll love you there. 

Well some do, some don't, I guess the same as everywhere.  I'm seen as overly privileged back in Guatemala for many reasons.  European background, born and raised in america.  Jealousy factor I guess.  I'm okay here.  When I get my health straightened back out in India or in the USA, it'll be right back to good times here in Siam.  I'm just overly pessimistic now probably because I'm in a lot of pain.  Chronic pain makes people crazy man.

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1 hour ago, steven100 said:

sounds like a nut case to me. Get rid of her quickly. Pay her way back to see family in Thailand and when she leaves ....  you disappear forever.

I would just book a flight with a layover in dubai or in Beijing.  Get a tourist visa to uae or china before you go.  Slip away to grab a coffee, smokes, or a supper, ditch the phone, and exit the airport.  Problem solved.

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6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I've set my limit at 10k, there's always been plenty keen to move in at that price.

Bottom feeders

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6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I've set my limit at 10k, there's always been plenty keen to move in at that price.

Good plan, mine was 3k which I sent to her family every month. She was happy with that at first cos I took care of everything else - and that mounts up too - i gues today it would add 10k extra ie 300B/day

 

BUT where it went wrong was when she started mixing with other guys tarts. first thing asked is "how much he give you?".  One of the Aussie flash gits told us he gave his tart B15k  this really put shit in the fan.  I spoilt my relationship , there was always a black mood around the corner.  I sen t her back to her village with money and didnt return her calls.  You have to be cruel to be kind to yourself.  A month later a pal said he saw her in a bar working, a month after that she was seen flouncing around with a young blonde scandi, I heard she went to sweden

 

I didnt have any more live ins after that - when shit loses its polish

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10 hours ago, thecyclist said:

there was a report in the Bangkok Post on a comparative IQ study:the figures I remember are :average IQ:        Bangkok 96, South 94, Isan 89

I couldn't believe these as they seem just too low. From 1959-1992 IQ below 85 was considered retarded. In 1992 it was revised to below 75 but in some cases below 80. An average of 89 would mean a good portion of the population is actually retarded. Found this which does confirm Thai Lao (Isaan) and Thai Malay (southernmost) as the lowest IQ scores: https://prachatai.com/english/node/6684

 

To sum it up: the reasons for such a huge difference between most of Thailand to Issan is iodine deficiency and malnutrition at childhood, and education.

 

Buttom line? At least when it comes to "normal" job skills and otherwise - yes - Isaan girls are less capable than other areas of the country. Someone with a low 80's IQ score can't really do any complicated jobs, so it really is a choice between working the field, factory, or pussy. Explains a lot about Thailand as a whole and some of the more <deleted> moments here...

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If they're retarded how cum they are so good at money extraction multitasking?

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Their mothers and their grans. Lying cheating and stealing is a built in survival trait

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31 minutes ago, Pravda said:

If they're retarded how cum they are so good at money extraction multitasking?

And how come they're so good at learning different languages?

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