jsflynn603 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 14 hours ago, nev said: Bit hard to believe the Korean can read Thai, Never in all my years here have I known Thais to send a message to another Thai in English maybe he used Google translate to decipher ???? Though I attended Thai language class in Chiang mai I really never could grasp the language verbally. I always thought it odd, but I met another fellow American in Chiang mai, from California, and he two could not master the Thai language verbally. The odd part is both of us could read and write fairly well, even though the intonation (hi/med/low, rising, ect) was wrong. I was pretty adept at typing Thai. But could not follow when someone talked to me. Or, maybe he used translate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 He’s lucky he only got lightly fleeced..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 3 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Same happened to an old friend of mine years ago on Samui. He gave her everything. He opened two well equipped laundromats for her, with a good portion of his savings. Bought a new car in HER NAME! What a fool. Within a year she started bringing her boyfriends back to their home. Openly. What did he do? Took it like a chump. He used to come crying to me asking for advice. I told him, sorry you already made all the mistakes. No way you can fix it now. Your life is broken. Start over again. Problem was he was nearly wiped out financially, so he stuck around, and took the beat down. I could not stand to see it. Cut him off entirely. I would not be a party to that nonsense. You cannot allow yourself to be dragged into the sinkhole with him. I am loyal to my friends to a fault, but I did not know this guy well enough to occupy the space with him! He literally broke every rule of manhood, in developing a healthy relationship, from the beginning. He made all the classic mistakes. It was Shakesperean. You have to start out the relationship, as a man. And continue to express your power and position throughout. She will respect that. Otherwise? Woe is the man who lays down and dies. What a great friend you are. Watched your mate go down then dumped him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsflynn603 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Lodestone said: My first rule (among several) is no women with children. Even if she's honest and perfect in every other way, I simply will not become the new father to and take on the responsibility and expense of raising a child that's not my own. There's another reason also. Thailand, unlike other countries has a fast and hard rule: No removal of child from Thailand without written approval of BOTH parents. Many years back I had proposed to a woman in Chiang mai who accepted and we started the K-1 process. But it was immediately nixed by this rule. Her daughter and she had been abandoned as soon as she started to show (pregnancy) and the father had nothing to do with her or the child from then to the child's age 6. The grandparents however loved the child and forbade him to agree to let her leave Thailand for America. Not even a hefty bribe would help since he was the only and was a "kept" son, so the daughter was the golden goose. Thus the relationship was ended by necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pique Dard Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 the same old story! the same procedure every year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, Ctkong said: Most Chinese tourists cannot speak english. The only common foreign language the bargirls know. Moreover the older Chinese generation would rather go visit soapies than go go clubs. More bangs for the bucks. It is the younger Chinese crowd that were more proficient in English, more open minded and adventurous that darken the doors. I knew a hooker who worked as the translator working out of a BK brothel specialising in servicing Chinese businessmen. The business men always wanted 2 or 3 girls sent to their rooms, only 1 needed to speak Chinese. Quite a lot of Thai ladies in BK of Chinese descent. I also met a few girls who spoke Korean. There are clubs for Japanese only in BK as well. I'm not sure why you think bargirls only speak Issan and English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 14 hours ago, ezzra said: There's a huge club of dejected, bamboozled and screwed men in Thailand that have been taking for a ride to proverbial cleaners by local unscrupulous women who from the get go set out to cheat, control and steal properties and wealth from unsuspecting honest hearted foreigners who's their only mistake was to trust, and dare i say, to love a Thai women... I suspect them to be the majority of the TFV members posting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: I suspect them to be the majority of the TFV members posting here. 4 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: I suspect them to be the majority of the TFV members posting here. 4 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: I suspect them to be the majority of the TFV members posting here. And mostly losers wherever they may go. Some people should never leave the homeland. Harsh but true. They simply do not have the life skills to handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, emptypockets said: And mostly losers wherever they may go. Some people should never leave the homeland. Harsh but true. They simply do not have the life skills to handle it. I don’t want to go that far blaming these foreigners for their misery that someone else has created. But surely lots of victims on TFV. on other hand walk in any expat bar and most guys there too lost big amounts one way or the other. My Australian previous neighbor lost his house 4 M bht he just left with his car in middle of the night. His Thaiwife doesn’t seem to miss him infect right after his departure she hosted a big party every table for the guests had full bottle of whiskey on it. I admit i had a great time but never asked her what she was celebrating exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, jsflynn603 said: There's another reason also. Thailand, unlike other countries has a fast and hard rule: No removal of child from Thailand without written approval of BOTH parents. Many years back I had proposed to a woman in Chiang mai who accepted and we started the K-1 process. But it was immediately nixed by this rule. Her daughter and she had been abandoned as soon as she started to show (pregnancy) and the father had nothing to do with her or the child from then to the child's age 6. The grandparents however loved the child and forbade him to agree to let her leave Thailand for America. Not even a hefty bribe would help since he was the only and was a "kept" son, so the daughter was the golden goose. Thus the relationship was ended by necessity. The Grandparents could not stop your GF from taking her Daughter to the USA with you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggo Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Thai Women have had there time fleecing Europeans, they have now moved onto Koreans and Indians...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, BritManToo said: I knew a hooker who worked as the translator working out of a BK brothel specialising in servicing Chinese businessmen. The business men always wanted 2 or 3 girls sent to their rooms, only 1 needed to speak Chinese. Quite a lot of Thai ladies in BK of Chinese descent. I also met a few girls who spoke Korean. There are clubs for Japanese only in BK as well. I'm not sure why you think bargirls only speak Issan and English. Quite right. My last time in Pattaya I met quite a few bar girls who had a decent grasp of Mandarin (oo-err missus). One ladyboy on Soi Buakao was perfectly fluent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 16 hours ago, webfact said: and he paid a dowry I understand the Thai custom, but this is one that is 100% reversed from most western countries where a dowry is traditionally paid by the bride's family because traditionally women were viewed as an economic drain and the bride's father was happy to hand her off to the groom. Although at various times and for various reasons dowry's can go either direction. Sometimes a bit of money is exchanged for some business connections, royalty connections, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEyedPie Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I understand the Thai custom, but this is one that is 100% reversed from most western countries where a dowry is traditionally paid by the bride's family because traditionally women were viewed as an economic drain and the bride's father was happy to hand her off to the groom. There you have it. Thai sons are now the economic drain. Role reversal and none too surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 4 hours ago, ICELANDMAN said: I see you speaking with experience, I agree with you about Filipinas prolific liars I’ve found that also ... when working in Dubai. What surprised me (but doesn’t now) is people’s propensity to lie ... I’ve learned to trust no one on their word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, sanemax said: The Grandparents could not stop your GF from taking her Daughter to the USA with you . Yes Max, but if you read it carefully the Grandparents persuaded the absent father, their son, never to allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 minute ago, AlexRich said: Yes Max, but if you read it carefully the Grandparents persuaded the absent father, their son, never to allow it. As She was a single , unmarried and the Father had abandoned them , the Father of the boy would have had no parental rights to stop her taking him anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 15 hours ago, epicstuff said: A good rule of thumb is . If you not living with her, why get married in the first place? The other rule of thumb is, why would anyone get married in the fisrt place? If you love each other you will stay together........ why does anyone need a legal document for that? It doesnt offer any inssurance or other benifit as far as I'm aware... This stupid antiquated social concept of marriage for romantically dumb people has a lot to answer for.... Advantages of marriage versus staying with GF? 1. If under 50 you can get a marriage visa and live here if you meet the other requirements. 2. If legally married in a divorce can sue for half the costs of property you bought, if a GF its considered a gift 3. If married some pensions (like mine) will continue to my wife as a reduced benefit till she dies. Doesn't cover a GF 4. Some farangs married to a Gov worker are covered by their wife's health insurance policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 hear the same story everwhere over the years in Thailand.everyone gets caught somehow including me and many others who live there.they will be a new one everyday somewhere in Thailand.listen to the bar girls either the say cheap Charlie or kinyo if you don,t buy them a lady drink when in the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptogenic Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Am the lucky asian then? I married a thai girl and instead she paid me money every month ???? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowyrivers Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Wow! Why don’t foreigners do a little reading before giving their hearts ( and dicks) and money to Thai girls? Wake up boys! If she’s on her back in Pattaya or Patong don’t fall in love in the first 6 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 8:17 AM, ezzra said: by local unscrupulous women There's a whole industry out there: the audit company who falsifies the shareholdings in the house purchase; the lawyers who ride in to 'help'; the courts who never find against a Thai. In my case I estimate I have lost 2.8 million + years of expenditure on family/medical expenses + college fees + unpaid back loans. I thought I was being careful but still got conned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 11 hours ago, emptypockets said: Spoken like a committed single man. I feel so sorry for you. You do understand James Bond was a fictional character? Good luck getting the Aston Martin serviced in Thailand Wrong. I am very happily married. And part of the success of the marriage was due to my desire to hold my ground, and not become an emasculated waste of a man, like I see so much in the West. We are doing quite well. And you know something. She actually respects me. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 8:17 AM, ezzra said: There's a huge club of dejected, bamboozled and screwed men in Thailand that have been taking for a ride to proverbial cleaners by local unscrupulous women who from the get go set out to cheat, control and steal properties and wealth from unsuspecting honest hearted foreigners who's their only mistake was to trust, and dare i say, to love a Thai women... Over the years met quite a few Aussie men who suffered the same fate at the hands of Aussie women. Not me fortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 10:17 AM, epicstuff said: A good rule of thumb is . If you not living with her, why get married in the first place? The other rule of thumb is, why would anyone get married in the fisrt place? If you love each other you will stay together........ why does anyone need a legal document for that? It doesnt offer any inssurance or other benifit as far as I'm aware... This stupid antiquated social concept of marriage for romantically dumb people has a lot to answer for.... Staying single obviously doesn’t assist with spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickstav Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Thai women all say "I hate man that lie", but they are the biggest liars I've ever seen. Make Trump look like a choirboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 I really thought my wife was different. She was sitting outside a bar in soi Diana (just waiting for a friend to finish her shift) and I was taken by her honesty and sincerity. She told me her life story about how her parents tried to sell her when she was a baby, but no-one wanted her. And they had a whip-round in her village to get a top surgeon to remove her tail, but someone ran off with the dosh. So, we got married. I was going to care for her and give her a happy life. The first couple of days were OK. After that things deteriorated. I told her right from the start that I wanted 20 cats, and a koi-carp pond. She agreed but now I think she lied about wanting all this. 10 years on and I'm still figuring out what she wants from life. I said; "darling, when I kick the bucket, you can sell the land and find another farang." She replied "yes!" I'm not rolling over and going belly-up like other farang. No sir! I'm going to see it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Tale of woe whoa (or should have been) South Korean conned into marriage by tricky Thai woman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 I do think that when money is hard earned or comes by way of doing business, then one is less likely to be taken for a mug. It's not the same when you've been a pen pusher who flipped a house. Long distance relationships are a mine-field. All women will resent the lack of commitment, and a suitor in the background is inevitable. Age is a very big concern for obvious reasons, and yet is the factor least considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisperone Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 5/11/2019 at 4:04 AM, nickstav said: Thai women all say "I hate man that lie", but they are the biggest liars I've ever seen. Make Trump look like a choirboy. They didn't say they couldn't lie...just that they don't like men lying to them. Never heard of one way street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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