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Cylinder tax raises motorcycle prices

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BANGKOK, 10 May 2019 (NNT) - The motorcycle excise tax restructuring which changes from calculation of the capacity of the cylinder to the volume of carbon dioxide emission will be effective early next year which will raise the retail prices of most motorcycles in the country of less than 150 CC by 100-200 baht to support the measure to reduce PM 2.5.

 

The motorcycle tax restructuring is due to be announced in the Government Gazette so that it will be effective on January 1, 2020. Motorcycles that use electrical energy will be taxed at a rate of one percent of the retail price while the motorcycles that release below 50 grams of carbon dioxide will be subject to a three percent tax rate. The motorcycles that release from 51-90 grams of carbon dioxide will be subject to a five percent tax rate. The motorcycles that release from 91-130 grams of carbon will be subject to a nine percent tax rate. The motorcycles that release more than 130 grams of carbon dioxide will be subject to a 18 percent tax rate. The motorcycle prototype for research will not be taxed. The measure will cause the retail prices of motorcycles of below 150 CC which account for 90 percent of all motorcycles to rise by 100-200 baht.

 

Mr. Natthakon Utensut, Director of the Excise Department’s Tax Planning Department, said the restructuring of the motorcycle tax will allow the Excise Department to collect an annual revenue of about 30-40 percent or 600-800 million baht more than last year when over two billion baht was collected in accordance with the principle of taxation for the environment and support the competitiveness of the industries with regard to energy efficiency, reducing PM 2.5 and various pollution problems.

 

As for the increase in the excise tax on tobacco that was effective after midnight on May 7 from five stang for 10 grams to one baht for 10 grams, it is expected to yield an additional income of two billion baht from raising the tax from the total tobacco excise tax, totaling approximately 60,000 million baht per year.

 

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14 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

The motorcycle excise tax restructuring which changes from calculation of the capacity of the cylinder to the volume of carbon dioxide emission will be effective early next year which will raise the retail prices of most motorcycles in the country of less than 150 CC by 100-200 baht

This is a one-off tax levied at the motorbike manufacturer/importer.

My wife saw a Thai TV report that said tax was to increase between 100 - 1,000 Baht, leaving her with the impression it was the road tax (paid annually at the Land Transport Department) that was increasing.

When I ask her how it differed by engine size, she said the news article didn't explain any details at all, hence the confusion.

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It seems to be tax on sales which is quite sensible

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When these articles say the price will rise by 100-200 Baht, you can expect a much larger increase once all the dust has settled. 

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Just now, Guderian said:

When these articles say the price will rise by 100-200 Baht, you can expect a much larger increase once all the dust has settled. 

And the dust will be taxed as well.

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32 minutes ago, smedly said:

It seems to be tax on sales which is quite sensible

Sure.

"Excise tax" is a tax on the sale price.

And as the article describes it's a percentage of the sale price before tax depending on CO2 emission.

No word about annual road tax.

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3 hours ago, rooster59 said:

The measure will cause the retail prices of motorcycles of below 150 CC which account for 90 percent of all motorcycles to rise by 100-200 baht.

But this 100 to 200 Baht sounds like Thai newspaper math to me.

 

A typical small motorcycle is in the 45000 Baht price range.

3% of that is 1350 Baht.

5% of that is 2250 Baht.

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9 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

But this 100 to 200 Baht sounds like Thai newspaper math to me.

Giving it a second thought :whistling:

They seem to describe the difference between the existing tax based on displacement/cylinders(?) and the newly planned CO2 based tax for typical small motorbikes.

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22 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Giving it a second thought :whistling:

They seem to describe the difference between the existing tax based on displacement/cylinders(?) and the newly planned CO2 based tax for typical small motorbikes.

Do you mean to say you think it's not the 'import duty' but the annual road tax?
Or have I misunderstood what you said?

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Just now, bluesofa said:

Do you mean to say you think it's not the 'import duty' but the annual road tax?
Or have I misunderstood what you said? 

Misunderstood! Not my day?

 

It's neither import duty not annual road tax :smile:


It's a tax on the sale/retail price.

It affects buyers of new motorcycles.

So far it was based on cylinders(displacement?).

Now it will be based on CO2 emission.

 

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Yay! They are making (some) big bikes in Thailand even more expensive woohoo!

 

I checked a some bikes and quite a few emit more than 130 g/km so they will jump from the old 8% for 501-1000cc to 18% which is an increase of 10%.

The bikes below marked with "OK" usually will see a 1% increase which is the vast majority of bikes. They calculated the tax brackets with exactly this goal in mind.

 

Honda:

500 range: 80g OK

CB(R)650R: 112g OK

CBR1000RR: 132g INCREASE 8% -> 18%

Africa Twin: 109g OK

X-Adv and 750 range: 85/81g GOOD, decrease from 8% to 5%

MSX125: 34g OK

Click125 etc not sure, I checked the PCX125 from EU and it said 47g so OK

 

BMW:

S1000R/R: 149/154g INCREASE 8% -> 18%

R1250GS: 110g: GOOD, 17% -> 9%

G310R: 77g OK

 

Yamaha:

R1/M: 167g INCREASE 8% -> 18%

MT10: 185g INCREASE 8% -> 18%

MT09: 127g OK

MT07: 100g OK

MT03: 89g: OK

 

Kawasaki:

Z900: 138g INCREASE 8% -> 18%

650 range: 103g OK

 

Ducati:

Scrambler/Monster797: 117g OK

Monster 821: 125g OK

950 range: 122-129g OK

Panigale V4: 165g OK (because already over 1000cc)

Multi 1260: 120g GOOD 17% -> 9%

 

Triumph:

Street Twin: 89g GOOD 8% -> 5%

Speed Twin: 109g GOOD 17% -> 9%

 

I didn't really care for the low dispacement scooters as even a 5% increase on 100k is just 5k and even that's unlikely. But for the big bikes it can make a big difference.

 

Most bikes will see a slight increase, bigger capacity sport bikes will see some big hikes, adventure/touring bikes with low fuel consumption but over 1000cc will see a decrease.

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43 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Do you mean to say you think it's not the 'import duty' but the annual road tax?
Or have I misunderstood what you said?

You can see it as something similar to VAT, it's a tax levied at the time of sale (though companies can't get around it like with VAT).

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4 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Mr. Natthakon Utensut, Director of the Excise Department’s Tax Planning Department, said the restructuring of the motorcycle tax will allow the Excise Department to collect an annual revenue of about 30-40 percent or 600-800 million baht more than last year when over two billion baht was collected in accordance with the principle of taxation for the environment and support the competitiveness of the industries with regard to energy efficiency, reducing PM 2.5 and various pollution problems.

Idiots.

Hit the piss poor again.

The easy targets.

A 110-125cc moped/scooter call it what you will, currently manufactured with the latest EFI, is prolly the least polluting vehicle on the planet with an internal combustion engine.

Unlike old diesel buses, trucks, 20 y/o Isuzu's, 15 y/o Toyota's, etc etc.

If more people were encouraged to ride aforementioned mopeds and less people drove cars, he would be onto something.

Traffic would be noticeably better too.

Worldwide.

And then i see punters nipping into supermarkets for 10 mins leaving the car/truck running in the car park to keep their little nice cool enviroment cold for their return....

Howzabout CRACKING DOWN ON THAT!

Politicians make me puke.

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HD not has list, normal men buy HD and how much tax have ? normal human not newer buy race bike. racer tax need be 90% more.

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