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21 hours ago, JWRC said:

After wading through all the speculation on here, I see quite a few have asked when this will start and as far as I can tell, no one has answered that.

If there is not a start date then the article started by webfact is misleading in as much as it gives the impression this is a done deal.

 

I have had a very stressful day as a result of this misleading post and now going through some of the posts it appears that the requirement is not yet in place.

 

Perhaps our most intelligent of visa advisors namely Ubon Joe could shed some light on this, my personal situation is that my visa extension is due at the beginning of June and I would like to be prepared,

 

21 hours ago, JWRC said:

After wading through all the speculation on here, I see quite a few have asked when this will start and as far as I can tell, no one has answered that.

If there is not a start date then the article started by webfact is misleading in as much as it gives the impression this is a done deal.

 

I have had a very stressful day as a result of this misleading post and now going through some of the posts it appears that the requirement is not yet in place.

 

Perhaps our most intelligent of visa advisors namely Ubon Joe could shed some light on this, my personal situation is that my visa extension is due at the beginning of June and I would like to be prepared,

Can't you apply for the extension 45 days prior to the due date? If your due date is early June you can apply any day from now before its an IO requirement.

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4 hours ago, dcnx said:

Told you all this was coming.

You said O-A visa's would have to have health insurance? 

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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That's interesting because when I was deciding where to live in Thailand, CM was my top choice, but I rejected it based on the smoky season, and of course it's gotten much worse since then (so that was a wise decision for me). 

20 years ago it was smokey so I moved to Pattaya. 

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46 minutes ago, eagleo said:

 

Can't you apply for the extension 45 days prior to the due date? If your due date is early June you can apply any day from now before its an IO requirement.

Most places it is 30 days in advance as I recall. 

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1 hour ago, Tiger Sam said:

I went to Chaeng Watthana Immigration Div 1 office to renew my one-year retirement visa on Monday this week,  After I obtained my one-year extension for the nth time I asked the Immigration Officer in Section C1 of the same office for information covering extension of more than one year, say 5 years. They provided me with a copy of their latest printed information on their new long-stay visas (only for citizens of selected countries), which says that for visa extensions of 5 years or more, health insurance coverage is now mandatory.  Since I am past 70 years young, they said it is far easier for me to just apply for a one-year extension every year because I will not be able to get new health insurance coverage policy issue to me in Thailand being older than 70 years.  I am not really worried about not having health insurance coverage since I have been self-insured for years after retirement and I have more than enough funds for this purpose.  Therefore, will the Nation reporter(s) who wrote this article re-check their source of information and issue an update to this articel if needed, because the new health insurance coverage issue only applies to new visa or visa extensions that are longer than one year.  Try not to provide information that is confusing and not quite accurate.  Thank you.

The "new" 10 years visa, which is valid for 5 years + can then be another 5 years is an "O-X" visa. For that type of visa it clearly states "O-X" in your passport. That type of visa clearly states health insurance of 400k + 40k OPD, under the current rules for it, which have been around a couple of years. 

 

These articles all clearly say "O-A" Visa.

 

Sound like the immigration officer is just another one of those providing confusing and not quite up to date/ accurate info.

 

Then again that's nothing knew with the government + ministries + immigration offices/officers on these things.

 

Plus of course the mandatory 80+ pages of waffle and confusion on here.

 

Let's face it. Very very few people actually know what is going on. And those that do aren't exactly on here LOL. Those that do also likely haven't communicated to other ministeries and immigration offices and officers. Even those that do think they know what's going on aren't necessarily the ones who will be calling the final shots.

 

The rest is even more meaningless waffle LOL

 

Cheers

Fletch 🙂

 

Edit: If perchance there is someone in these 80+ pages - which I confess I haven't read in totality - who was actually at the cabinet meeting and knows what the people actually there did and that they had the authority do enact such legislation, then I'm happy to be corrected: that there isn't a single person among these 80+ pages who actually knows what the full story is, and all it does is add to the confusion LOL

 

In such a rare event I will correct my post to 80+ pages of waffle and confusion less 1 post on facts LOL

 

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8 minutes ago, fletchsmile said:

The "new" 10 years visa, which is valid for 5 years + can then be another 5 years is an "O-X" visa. For that type of visa it clearly states "O-X" in your passport. That type of visa clearly states health insurance of 400k + 40k OPD, under the current rules for it, which have been around a couple of years. 

 

These articles all clearly say "O-A" Visa.

 

Sound like the immigration officer is just another one of those providing confusing and not quite up to date/ accurate info.

 

Then again that's nothing knew with the government + ministries + immigration offices/officers on these things.

 

Plus of course the mandatory 80+ pages of waffle and confusion on here.

 

Let's face it. Very very few people actually know what is going on. And those that do aren't exactly on here LOL. Those that do also likely haven't communicated to other ministeries and immigration offices and officers. Even those that do think they know what's going on aren't necessarily the ones who will be calling the final shots.

 

The rest is even more meaningless waffle LOL

 

Cheers

Fletch 🙂

 

Edit: If perchance there is someone in these 80+ pages - which I confess I haven't read in totality - who was actually at the cabinet meeting and knows that the people actually had the authority do enact such legislation, then I'm happy to be corrected, that there isn't a single person these 80+ pages who actually knows what the full story is. In such a rare event I will correct my post to 80+ pages of waffle less 1 post on facts LOL

 

I called my insurance agent who works for the largest insurance company in Thailand (A1A) and she had no idea what I was talking about when mentioning that I needed 40k and 400K insurance coverage or anything about the new rules discussed above. 

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9 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

--Did they talk about the difference and distinction between O-A visas vs. retirement extensions, and did they mean to only apply the insurance rule against O-A visas, or did they really mean to apply it to all "retiree" visa holders here?  Anyone's guess at this point.

Unless you can buy the insurance in our home countries I think the answer is obvious. 

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13 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Unless you can buy the insurance in our home countries I think the answer is obvious. 

 

I don't understand your comment at all. The announcement yesterday did actually say that they would accept either Thai-issued policies or those from abroad, as long as they had the required minimum 400K/40K coverage...

 

That's a distinct difference from the O-X visa health insurance requirement, where only policies issued by the half dozen or so Thai insurers on the government's Long Stay website will be accepted.

 

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11 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I don't understand your comment at all. The announcement yesterday did actually say that they would accept either Thai-issued policies or those from abroad, as long as they had the required minimum 400K/40K coverage...

 

That's a distinct difference from the O-X visa health insurance requirement, where only policies issued by the half dozen or so Thai insurers on the government's Long Stay website will be accepted.

 

Because everyone has it wrong.  The insurance is for retirement extensions that's why they listed Thai insurance companies.   

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I have a travel insurance. Its covering the required amounts. Similar to a previous poster with an Australian credit card. I have just done my first extension about a week ago in Thailand. I guess I can wait and see once the dust settles what is required for which type of visa or extension. I usually stay in Thailand for a max of 6 months then back to Oz for a couple of months and repeat.

Is there anyone who has an idea of the difference of a travel vs health insurance?

I also would think that when you apply for a new O-A visa in your home country you will need the insurance as the required B800k only need to be in your bank account on the day and not stay as required for an extension.

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5 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

We agree on something.

 

Actually I correct myself, they didn't actually do runners, they used the public system and paid for it, I suppose that's ok as it's paying the account for services rendered, e.g. same price as Thai's.

 

I don't bolster stories, although in this instance made a mistake and correct myself here and now.

Suppose it is? And it wouldn’t be Thai price!

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