simple1 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Morch said: The threat is mostly to deny EU firms doing business with Iran the opportunity to do so with the USA. While I don't see this as a good way of dealing with allies, outrageous interference? Doubtful. So far, it seems that EU firms either do not have much faith in their governments "push back" potential, or that they do the math pitting respective trade prospects with Iran and the USA. The signatories acting collectively and managing to do something constructive, never mind effective....not holding my breath. IMO US trade threats against it's NATO partners is an abuse of power, as was trump's unilateral withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Morch Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 hours ago, simple1 said: IMO US trade threats against it's NATO partners is an abuse of power, as was trump's unilateral withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal. I don't have a problem with criticizing both moves. Did so on plenty of other topics. It's the terminology used which I find questionable, though easy to understand that it will be used. This one is not really an improvement on "outrageous". Is "abuse of power" applicable in reference to international relations? Had the USA gone about it in a more diplomatic, quiet way would it be alright, then? If withdrawing from the Iran Deal was an "abuse of power", how does signing up without political back up fare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Morch said: If withdrawing from the Iran Deal was an "abuse of power", how does signing up without political back up fare? Deflecting much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, Morch said: I don't have a problem with criticizing both moves. Did so on plenty of other topics. It's the terminology used which I find questionable, though easy to understand that it will be used. This one is not really an improvement on "outrageous". Is "abuse of power" applicable in reference to international relations? Had the USA gone about it in a more diplomatic, quiet way would it be alright, then? If withdrawing from the Iran Deal was an "abuse of power", how does signing up without political back up fare? No attempt on my part to improve upon 'outrageous' - it's my opinion, won't change in relation to trump's decision making to date regards Iran. There are signals trump's winding back the rhetoric, lets see how he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 52 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Deflecting much? No. Explained on many other posts. You even acknowledged the issue in one of your own contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 16 hours ago, bizboi said: They are muslims and think the same!! That is like saying that the Turks are the same or the Pakistanis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2tall Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/14/2019 at 8:52 AM, OneMoreFarang said: Obviously Trump won't listen. He needs a distraction from all his personal failings. And his fox "news" watching supporters will never know that Trump is the problem and not Iran. Iran complied with all the details from the agreement. The USA broke it. hmmm....u best get on with factual current events before making uninformed statements. https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/01/why-trump-extended-iran-nuclear-deal-timing-north-korea/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, 2tall said: hmmm....u best get on with factual current events before making uninformed statements. https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/01/why-trump-extended-iran-nuclear-deal-timing-north-korea/ The national review is your idea of a good source for fair and balanced reporting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonah Tenner Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 10:48 AM, car720 said: Your right, as usual. I should have said that they think with their brains. In this world that is rather unique... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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