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3 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Is the new insurance law for expats only for O-A visa holders or is it for anyone getting a retirement extension?

 

Since you are  selling insurance for it I assume you must know.

Have just finished a conversation with PC and they advise that this only applies to NEW Non O-A visa applications. In their opinion it does not apply to extensions of stay.

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So it's as clear as mud

I thought this article was clear and helpful, even if the rules still are not. Thanks! However, a suggestion: should this new requirement for mandatory health insurance ever be extended to apply to

Not yet. It will apply to everyone eventually.  

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13 minutes ago, IssanCalling said:

Please excuse my ignorance, what is the difference between Visa 'O' & Visa 'O-A'... 

OA is the visa you get in home country specifically for retirement, can come and go for a year and stay a year each entry. No requirements for money in a thai bank.

 

O visa is a visa that allows for 90 days entry for married to a Thai, volunteer etc and for entry to the take up an extension based on retirement, marriage etc. O visa's are also issued inside thailand as part of the conversion to a retire extension.

 

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I doubt the premise of this thread the original Nation article stated this...

 

According to Nattawuth, the new rule applies to both new applicants for the non-immigrant visa (O-A), which offers a stay of up to one year, and those wishing to renew their visa. Each renewal is valid for one year.

 

To the OP what is the difference between “extension of stay” and “renew their visa” other than semantics...

 

Mr Nattawuth seems to say that this applies to all of us...

 

https://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30369323

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Just seen this article in Phuket News:

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UPDATE: Phuket Immigration Chief Col Kathathorn Kumthieng confirmed to The Phuket News today (May 14) that he has been informed of the new requirement but that he has yet to receive an order for his office to start applying it when processing applications for one-year Non-Immigrant O-A permits-to-stay.

Col Kathathorn also confirmed that the new insusrance requirement applies only to Non-Immigrant O-A "retirement" visas.


Read more at https://www.thephuketnews.com/cabinet-approves-mandatory-health-insurance-for-long-stay-visas-71424.php#sAzWmqyE5mqrqMek.99

Full link here.

 

Like OP says only applies to O-A retirement visa.

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3 minutes ago, SeeRTB said:

If you can only get the OA visa from your own country before you go, How can you get a thai medical insurance policy ?

 

With the OX I think there is a check in with immigration when you arrive, and show funds deposited etc. OA will probably work the same.

 

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1 minute ago, khunpon said:

Just seen this article in Phuket News:

Full link here.

 

Like OP says only applies to O-A retirement visa.

Each immigration office will interpret this as they see fit.  Suppose for example, they say you need proof of insurance.  Maybe an agent can help for an increased fee?  After all they are already helping with the troublesome 800/400k requirement.

 

This is just like every other scam I have seen in Thailand.  Keep tightening the screws as long as the victim is willing to keep paying.

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3 hours ago, malagateddy said:

Wait and see.
I am not a gossip monger..I was told this by someone who is in a position to know things.
The same person told me over 15 MONTHS ago about meetings being set up re healthcare insurance becoming mandatory

Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

Hearsay doesn't count We need 100% proof No Bullshit.

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15 minutes ago, sfokevin said:

I doubt the premise of this thread the original Nation article stated this...

 

According to Nattawuth, the new rule applies to both new applicants for the non-immigrant visa (O-A), which offers a stay of up to one year, and those wishing to renew their visa. Each renewal is valid for one year.

 

To the OP what is the difference between “extension of stay” and “renew their visa” other than semantics...

 

Mr Nattawuth seems to say that this applies to all of us...

 

https://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30369323

The renew visa statement is the crux of the confusion, whether they mean get another visa, switch to an extension, or they just dont understand how OA visa works. Its the ministry of health announcing the insurance so they probably dont have a great understanding of visa's. I think they presume an OA visa is a renewable thing, not realising that when it ends you switch to an extension of stay. An extension is a separate entity, its not a visa extension or a visa renewal.

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13 minutes ago, SeeRTB said:

If you can only get the OA visa from your own country before you go, How can you get a thai medical insurance policy ?

 

Probably because it actually means retirement extension but was lost in the translation.  Otherwise why only the Thai companies listed?

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4 hours ago, webfact said:

Extensions of stay are not visas. Most retirees who stay in Thailand do so on an ‘extension of stay based on retirement.

No, it is the golden goose. 

 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

The requirement for mandatory health insurance appears to only affect those applying for a Non-Immigrant Visa OA.

Not the golden goose.

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19 minutes ago, SeeRTB said:

If you can only get the OA visa from your own country before you go, How can you get a thai medical insurance policy ?

 

It does not have to be an insurance policy issued by an insurance company in Thailand, according to news reports and the announcement on the website of the Ministry of Public Health.

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4 hours ago, carbon007 said:

I have been here 12 years and this is the first time I realise (have been explained) that a "Retirement" visa (which I have) is not the same as an extension of a "Non-immigrant O-A" visa.

Let us see how long time this distinction will be upheld

 

It seems to me that even with the above explanation, some still haven figured it out there is no such thing as a "Retirement Visa"...just that many people (and even some immigrations people) call "Extension of Stays" VISAs.  You either have a Non-Immigrant O-A VISA, which is issued in your home country, or you have a Non-Immigrant O VISA issued from wherever, which subsequently can be converted/extended by a "Extension of Stay" based on a reason of "Retirement" or "Marriage" or some other such reason.  

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2 minutes ago, Maestro said:

It does not have to be an insurance policy issued by an insurance company in Thailand, according to news reports and the announcement on the website of the Ministry of Public Health.

Why would they list Thai companies?  Can you buy it by email?

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