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Mandatory health insurance for non-immigrant O-A retirement visa holders likely to take effect in July

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3 hours ago, xylophone said:

Not so sure, see this from the Phuket News..............It includes those applying to "renew" their one year permits to stay. Surely this refers to the retirement extensions we renew every year?

 

“The insurance policy must provide up to B40,000 coverage for outpatient treatment and up to B400,000 for inpatient treatment during their stay in the Kingdom of Thailand,” Dr Nutthawut said.

 

The requirement applies to all new applicants for one-year non-immigrant O-A visas, and for those applying to “renew” their one-year permits-to-stay, he said.


www.thephuketnews.com/cabinet-approves-mandatory-health-insurance-for-long-stay-visas-71424.php#kimf7zlHsmOva8Uu.97  

 

However, the same news source, which is explicit in the non inclusion of Non-Imm O extensions (retirement, marriage, dependents etc).

 

UPDATE: Phuket Immigration Chief Col Kathathorn Kumthieng confirmed to The Phuket News today (May 14) that he has been informed of the new requirement but that he has yet to receive an order for his office to start applying it when processing applications for one-year Non-Immigrant O-A permits-to-stay.

Col Kathathorn also confirmed that the new insusrance requirement applies only to Non-Immigrant O-A "retirement" visas.

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7 hours ago, rabas said:

Doubt they cover any pre-existing parts of your body.

pre-existing conditions ?
excluded in the widest terms.
In the offer that I received I was told to present a MRI scan concerning a successful operation of about 25 years ago, before that "risk" would be considered at all, and moreover a joint that had received treatment for a slightly damaged ligament a year before was excluded.

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4 minutes ago, pagallim said:

UPDATE: Phuket Immigration Chief Col Kathathorn Kumthieng () when processing applications for one-year Non-Immigrant O-A permits-to-stay.

Col Kathathorn also confirmed that the new insusrance requirement applies only to Non-Immigrant O-A "retirement" visas.

Better but still unclear.

What about those on Retirement Extensions who never got a Non O-A visa? :ermm:

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Strange concocted numbers, sounds like they were done by a PR firm for future reasons, apart from the few younger westerners being stretchered into hospitals unconscious when they come to a cropper riding a souped-up very powerful motorbike in areas like Pattaya, and even then what I have heard from people involved is the hospital will most of the time ask for some sort of proof of payment before proceeding, when ninety-nine percent of foreigners visit a hospital, dentist, hotel the normal procedure is the first thing asked for is your passport, which is immediately copied, treatment for my visits have normally been settled after the treatment and before leaving, for my last visit, with a Thai signing as guarantor, they asked for a deposit before carrying out the small op. 

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11 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:


Actually I don’t think they will.
As the actual number of OA holders has dropped from 32 million to 80 thousand and some loose change !
Plus of course we all know ( more pure speculation from me I’m afraid emoji47.png ) that the hospital absconders were mainly tourists falling off their mc’s or foreigners from nearby Asian countries.

I would think you 'hit the nail on the head' with the bulk of the numbers being from neighboring countries.

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13 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

Better but still unclear.

What about those on Retirement Extensions who never got a Non O-A visa? :ermm:

Not quite sure what you mean, but a Non-Imm O-A can't be extended.   It expires and a new O-A is applied for (means leaving the country of course).   The retirement/marriage/dependent 12 month extensions are from a Non-Imm O visa.

 

 

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Not quite sure what you mean, but a Non-Imm O-A can't be extended.   It expires and a new O-A is applied for (means leaving the country of course).   The retirement/marriage/dependent 12 month extensions are from a Non-Imm O visa.

Not correct I’m afraid !!

The OA can give up to 2 years stay , 1st year multi entry visa, 2nd year permission to stay which can then be extended indefinitely .

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4 minutes ago, pagallim said:

Not quite sure what you mean, but a Non-Imm O-A can't be extended.   It expires and a new O-A is applied for (means leaving the country of course).   The retirement/marriage/dependent 12 month extensions are from a Non-Imm O visa.

That funny.  I got a Non O-A in New York 13 years ago and have extended it every year since then.

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9 minutes ago, pagallim said:

Not quite sure what you mean, but a Non-Imm O-A can't be extended. 

Right, but read what I quoted above:

28 minutes ago, pagallim said:

PDATE: Phuket Immigration Chief () confirmed (...) when processing applications for one-year Non-Immigrant O-A permits-to-stay.

"permit to stay" is Extension. So ??

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6 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:


Not correct I’m afraid !!

The OA can give up to 2 years stay , 1st year multi entry visa, 2nd year permission to stay which can then be extended indefinitely .

Indeed, must admit I wasn't aware of that.   I thought that it just expired and required a new visa, not extension.   This is the MFA edict:

 

http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15385-Non-Immigrant-Visa-"O-A"-(Long-Stay).html

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You can extend a Non-Imm O-A Visa. It works in exactly the same way as extending a Non-Imm O Visa. I have extended my original Non-Imm O-A for the last 4 years. I do not have a Non-Imm O Visa. 

If you want a new O-A Visa that is a different matter and as you say cannot be done in Thailand. 

 

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So you guys telling me that there is some secret Pattaya island with 30+ million foreigners living on it that I still don't know about after 7 years? Because I never seen that many foreigners elsewhere in Thailand. If you would count 1 million for Bangkok, 1 million for Phuket, 1 million for Pattaya, 500K for other bigger cities and 10K for the rest, you would still not even get anywhere near these numbers.

Anyway, so now there is a 800K requirement / lock on money aside of forcefully having to find a unwished or expensive insurance? 
It is that I am still under 30 so my pension days are far away but sure as hell I would not retire here with less than 2500USD monthly otherwise.
Way better places to go in that case, it might start to get busy in the south of Europe over a decade of time.

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Aside from the fact, that their facts seem out of whack. I wonder if they will drop the requirement for 800,000 in the bank for those who have the mandatory health insurance? Since that was one of the main justifications for the 800k in the first place.Me thinks they no longer want western retirees taking up residence in Thailand.


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9 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

Why is everyone making a big issue of this?   They want us to have insurance doesn't matter what they say here, and what cost they make up. you have to have it.  Why not talk about the type of policies available.

Or a better idea 

someone post a real insurance certificate that we can all copy / forge

 

That was My Thai mate in Bangkok immediate suggestion

 

We have to learn to think like them

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