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Mandatory health insurance for non-immigrant O-A retirement visa holders likely to take effect in July

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Presumably having to have 800k Baht in the bank for a a 1 year extension of a retirement visa should show I have enough to cover things. If not can I revert to my marriage extension - only 400k needed just more paperwork. Not heard anything about the new rules covering marriage extension

 

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35 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

That's an optional travel insurance program for incoming travelers.... not a mandatory insurance requirement for tourists to Thailand.

 

They should make it mandatory then. Those short-stay tourists are obviously the group that leave most unpaid bills in Thailand. 

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17 minutes ago, micmichd said:

They should make it mandatory then. Those short-stay tourists are obviously the group that leave most unpaid bills in Thailand. 

 

I agree entirely... But instead, they chose for some inexplicable reason to take aim at the O-A group who, by definition, have already have to prove they have significant funds just in order to qualify for the O-A, not to mention, at least being healthy enough to travel internationally back to their home country every year or two to apply for a new O-A.

 

Just to note the actual details:

--with the O-A insurance proposal, O-A holders would have to have coverage for at least 400,000 in inpatient expenses...

--and yet to simply qualify for an O-A, the applicant already has to prove at least 800,000 baht in their bank account or monthly income of at least 65,000 baht or a combination of the two. O-As are typically NOT the destitute ones.

 

If they were actually aiming to address the actual problem of unpaid foreigner hospital bills, by and large, they most likely took aim in entirely the wrong direction in the big scheme of things. Not surprisingly.

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1 hour ago, poohy said:

Or a better idea 

someone post a real insurance certificate that we can all copy / forge

 

That was My Thai mate in Bangkok immediate suggestion

 

We have to learn to think like them

Anyone who would do that sounds like someone they would like to kick out of the country under the Good Guys In, Bad Guys Out policy.

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21 minutes ago, NancyL said:

The problem of unpaid medical bills at gov't hospitals is a very real problem.  I've seen the statistics at Suan Dok (Chiang Mai University) hospital first-hand and know the ways it happens.  First of all, remember that at gov't hospitals, the staff isn't well-trained in keeping someone's bill up-to-date like they do at private hospitals nor do they personally escort someone to the cashier when their treatment is done.  So, it's fairly easy for someone to "escape", yes that's the word they use, after treatment in the emergency room or even after a routine out-patient appointment.  I've known of people who walk out just because no one explained to them where to go to pay their bill.

 

As for in-patients, it's harder for them to "escape" without paying their bill, but they can plead poverty and the hospital will arrange for a payment contract.  Problem is that it's difficult for make payments.  If paying with bank transfers, you have to fax, yes fax the payment confirmation because the staff at Suan Dok don't have internet access. If someone comes in person, they have to go to two offices to complete the transaction.  I know people who show up on the Suan Dok records as never having made a payment, yet they tell me they have given 10,000 baht/month to their GF, housekeeper or neighbor with instructions to take it to Suan Dok to pay their hospital bill.  Of course, they couldn't produce receipts. 

 

Personally, I think the idea of requiring resident foreigners to have health insurance or a sum in a Thai bank for medical expenses is long overdue.  And so is the idea of requiring travel insurance of visitors.  I've seen first-hand the consequences of not having insurance and the miracles that insurance can create, especially travel insurance for short-time visitors who need assistance to return to their home countries.

There was an article circulating two days ago (facebook and utube) about how nice Thai hospitals were because they didn't make poor Cambodians pay for their hospital bills.  My wife as going on about how nice the Thai doctors are.  I told her to pat herself on the back because it was actually her the wife of a Farang who was going to end up paying for the poor Cambodians.  

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13 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Anyone who would do that sounds like someone they would like to kick out of the country under the Good Guys In, Bad Guys Out policy.

 

... true, but don't you worry, agents will facilitate that flawlessly ...

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2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

A visa for the over-50s that allows a year's stay in Thailand.

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2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

A visa for the over-50s that allows a year's stay in Thailand.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

So it seems after todays Nation report anybody holding a Non Immigrant O-A retirement visa will maybe required to have health insurance on renewing their next 1 year extension of stay.

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3 minutes ago, DUNROAMIN said:

 

So it seems after todays Nation report anybody holding a Non Immigrant O-A retirement visa will maybe required to have health insurance on renewing their next 1 year extension of stay.

Likely not maybe according to OP.

"Mandatory health insurance for non-immigrant O-A retirement visa holders likely to take effect in July."

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41 minutes ago, NancyL said:

Personally, I think the idea of requiring resident foreigners to have health insurance or a sum in a Thai bank for medical expenses is long overdue.  And so is the idea of requiring travel insurance of visitors.  I've seen first-hand the consequences of not having insurance and the miracles that insurance can create, especially travel insurance for short-time visitors who need assistance to return to their home countries.

I agree with the need to have an insurance, but I dread to have to demonstrate to a bunch of uniformed halfwits that my current UN retiree coverage matches their half cooked 40k/400k rip off plans.

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So it seems after todays Nation report anybody holding a Non Immigrant O-A retirement visa will maybe required to have health insurance on renewing their next 1 year extension of stay.
No. It's only required when applying for a OA (or OX) visa. It doesn't apply for Extensions of any kind.

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