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Mandatory health insurance for non-immigrant O-A retirement visa holders likely to take effect in July

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2 hours ago, madmen said:

Sure until you have full body stroke and then end up with double pneumonia like my body did. 1.5 million baht

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So, did a private health insurance pay your 1.5 million baht bill without messing around about possible pre-existing conditions?

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The non imm oa (longstay visa) is valid for 12 months, if you leave and return Thailand just before the expiry date you get stamped in for another year. During this 2nd year you can do an extension to stay based being over 50 yrs or marriage or ..... You can however also return home and apply for another non imm oa visa. Many people do this as they are not required to show B 800k or B 65k/month inside Thailand. If you however apply outside your home country for a longstay visa it is an non imm o visa (longstay visa). This visa can also be extended based on 50 + or marriage or ... .

That funny.  I got a Non O-A in New York 13 years ago and have extended it every year since then.


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This is not for the normal retirement visa right?  

 

O - A visa.... just the one for a year - that can be extended?  If so, am I correct in thinking that its only people over 50 on the O - A visa that need to get this medical insurance, and not the people on retirement visas with the required money in the bank?

 

If that is the case, what is all this panic about?

 

 

 

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This is not for the normal retirement visa right?  
 
O - A visa.... just the one for a year - that can be extended?  If so, am I correct in thinking that its only people over 50 on the O - A visa that need to get this medical insurance, and not the people on retirement visas with the required money in the bank?
 
If that is the case, what is all this panic about?
 
 
 
Many people are reading more into it, and assuming it will apply to Extensions of Stay, despite there being no evidence of this.

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Many people are reading more into it, and assuming it will apply to Extensions of Stay, despite there being no evidence of this.

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According to Director General Nattawuth, the new rule applies to both new applicants for the non-immigrant visa (O-A), which offers a stay of up to one year, and those wishing to renew their visa. Each renewal is valid for one year

 

https://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30369323

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According to Nattawuth, the new rule applies to both new applicants for the non-immigrant visa (O-A), which offers a stay of up to one year, and those wishing to renew their visa. Each renewal is valid for one year
 
https://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30369323
Let's not do this again. A "renewal" refers to renewing something you had before i.e. the visa. An Extension is completely different. In fact, the OA visa isn't renewed, you just apply for a new one at an overseas Consulate or Embassy. Mr Natthawut is confused or being incorrectly quoted. Newspapers are not renowned for getting all their facts right.

Stop relying on one misquoted or badly translated individual.

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On 5/15/2019 at 9:23 PM, Andrew Dwyer said:

If all these millions of OA visa holders are skipping their hospital bills then why don’t they chase em up !!

After all , what with the TM 30 and 90 days reporting they are easily tracked down emoji848.png

they usually die or skip the country  

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this is a very suspicious story on so many levels.

 

I try not use doctors very much but when I have, the first thing that the hospital does establish how I am going to pay; which is with cash.

 

if I was going to leave a bill unpaid, I would have to dash out of the hospital and breakaway from the nurse who will sometimes accompany me to the payment area. admittedly, they don't always do that so I could run away if I wanted to; but I could only do that once.

 

$9 million in unpaid hospital bills per year? 38 million foreign retirement visas that are active? that comes out to 0.24B per visa holder!!!!!!!!

 

maybe I have missed it but I have never seen any path whatsoever that would allow me to get treatment that I w/could not immediately pay for.

 

38 million O visas?  that's more than half the population of Thailand. I'm sorry, when I'm walking around the streets I am seeing many more Thai people than I am old farangs!

 

this looks to me like another move to force foreigners to subsidize domestic industry; this time instead of the banks it's the insurance companies!

 

this one will make me think about how important it is for me to stay here.

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28 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Let's not do this again. A "renewal" refers to renewing something you had before i.e. the visa. An Extension is completely different. In fact, the OA visa isn't renewed, you just apply for a new one at an overseas Consulate or Embassy. Mr Natthawut is confused or being incorrectly quoted. Newspapers are not renowned for getting all their facts right.

Stop relying on one misquoted or badly translated individual.

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Dr. Natthawut knows nothing about visas.  I would not trust his word for anything. 

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1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Let's not do this again. A "renewal" refers to renewing something you had before i.e. the visa. An Extension is completely different. In fact, the OA visa isn't renewed, you just apply for a new one at an overseas Consulate or Embassy. Mr Natthawut is confused or being incorrectly quoted. Newspapers are not renowned for getting all their facts right.

Stop relying on one misquoted or badly translated individual.

The question is: will it apply to people extending their visas, or not.  DG Nattawuth only said it applies to A-O, 1 year visas that  are _____ year by year.  Fill in the blank.

English     Thai   (google)

extend    ต่ออายุ
renew     ต่ออายุ

Extend and renew are indistinguishable in Thai. (taw ah-yoo) A literal translation of his comment is:  ...  "1 year, and can ask to extend stay year by year." Nattawuth would only know about O-A visas for retirement.

 

The one good argument that it does not apply to existing retirees would be that it applies only to people asking for new A-O visas from the MFA/Embassies. The MFA may not have authority to make demands of people already in country. MFA's jurisdiction is overseas, entry into the country.

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1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Let's not do this again. A "renewal" refers to renewing something you had before i.e. the visa. An Extension is completely different. In fact, the OA visa isn't renewed, you just apply for a new one at an overseas Consulate or Embassy. Mr Natthawut is confused or being incorrectly quoted. Newspapers are not renowned for getting all their facts right.

Stop relying on one misquoted or badly translated individual.

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You can choose to rationalize it however you wish but you can't say there is no evidence... :coffee1:

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17 minutes ago, rabas said:

The one good argument that it does not apply to existing retirees would be that it applies only to people asking for new A-O visas from the MFA/Embassies. The MFA may not have authority to make demands of people already in country. MFA's jurisdiction is overseas, entry into the country.

I agree with your line of thinking... The Thai Immigration Police are going to be reluctant to sign up to be on the front line of tossing out a bunch of fragile 70 year olds out of the country to solve another ministries budget problems...

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On an annual basis it just means a few less high end cars for the elite.    🙄

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