webfact Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Clean up and carry on: Central staff told not to wait for police after "many" suicides, claims local media Picture: The Pattaya News The Pattaya News has voiced suspicions that staff at Central Festival Pattaya Beach are trained to quickly get rid of the mess of suicide victims rather than make any attempt to help. Staff have been told to quickly pack the corpses off to hospital, clean up and carry on, said the locally based media. It was alleged that they have undergone training not to wait for police and rescue services to arrive to start an investigation. The allegation was clear: shopping revenue was more important than unwanted investigations in front of shoppers and tourists that might affect business. The Pattaya News said that there had been "multiple" cases of suicide jumpers at the prominent mall located on Pattaya Beach road. They posted a video of the aftermath of the jump of a reportedly 50 year old British man. Staff were seen clearing up with sweeping machines as officials pointed skywards. Shoppers were carrying on as if nothing had happened while the victim was at Pattaya Memorial Hospital. The media's suspicions were not accompanied by any comments from Central. They said that a witness on the sixth floor had run to the aid of the foreigner who had scaled a 1.5 meter high barrier. The jumper let go of the witness's hand and fell to their death by the escalator on the first floor, they said. Source: The Pattaya News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-05-17 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I learned of this news yesterday while having a meal at the very same mall. That gave me pause. But really what do people expect? To close the mall? Those cleaners are probably underpaid for cleaning up messes like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Maybe the mall could do more to to prevent it happening there, higher balustrades, or even full curtain walls. Train staff to recognise people at risk and how to deal with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Help? Wasn't it 100% clear that there was no more help to be applied? At the beginning of the video I see them using a tent to cover the corpse. From there they should really wait for police and "catafalque". Cordoning off the area widely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Basil B said: higher balustrades There are high enough (wish all condo/hotel railings were that high) and what could stop a suicidal candidate to walk outside for a jump? High enough: read somewhere 1.50m. Sounds plausible as I (1.72) can just look down (no urge to jump!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Basil B said: Maybe the mall could do more to to prevent it happening there, higher balustrades, or even full curtain walls. Train staff to recognise people at risk and how to deal with them. If there's a will there's a way, people will find a way to off themselves no matter what you put up. These aren't children and the world isn't a kitchen to make 'child proof'. And as far as 'training' people to deal with these types, hell, they can't even deal with this in the west, the only ones who have a chance to get saved are those reluctant to perform the final dive and stall out the act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Basil B said: Maybe the mall could do more to to prevent it happening there, higher balustrades, or even full curtain walls. Train staff to recognise people at risk and how to deal with them. Or they could have special jumping areas in a secluded spot . Maybe outside around the back on the roof ? Charge people 5000 Baht to enter , to help pay to clean the mess up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, Basil B said: Maybe the mall could do more to to prevent it happening there, higher balustrades, or even full curtain walls. Train staff to recognise people at risk and how to deal with them. Well once they get rid of all the foreigners from Thailand, problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, sanemax said: Or they could have special jumping areas in a secluded spot . Maybe outside around the back on the roof ? Charge people 5000 Baht to enter , to help pay to clean the mess up ? VT 6 next door would snaffle all the business. Much taller building and concrete impact area on all 4 sides to suit wind direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: There are high enough (wish all condo/hotel railings were that high) and what could stop a suicidal candidate to walk outside for a jump? Reports did say 1.5m which I would have thought near impossible, but the centre management have a duty of care to all its visitors, he could have so easily landed on someone. The centre management can not stop people committing suicide but they can make it harder to do so on their premises. (before it gets the title "Beachy Head of Asis"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonseeker Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Many malls have catch-nets every 3 or 4 floors... O. c. hardly in TH. Last seen in a large mall in KL and Istanbul... MS> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Basil B said: Maybe the mall could do more to to prevent it happening there, higher balustrades, or even full curtain walls. As it is in all malls in Paris - France ; it's impossible to fall down from an escalator . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Andersen Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, geoffbezoz said: Well once they get rid of all the foreigners from Thailand, problem solved. No Asian people jump too Chinese people do it alot But Rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, Henrik Andersen said: No Asian people jump too Chinese people do it alot But Rip Not in Central Pattaya they don't. They commit suicide by renting tour boats to Koh Larn ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Jingthing said: I learned of this news yesterday while having a meal at the very same mall. That gave me pause. But really what do people expect? To close the mall? Those cleaners are probably underpaid for cleaning up messes like that. Is that really the point, interfereing in police investigations is totally not appropriate and the owners / management of this mall should be told so in very clear terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 RIP bloke.....im happy you didn't land on someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cobra Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 May be they would be better to start installing these, so others dont get hurt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, scorecard said: Is that really the point, interfereing in police investigations is totally not appropriate and the owners / management of this mall should be told so in very clear terms. Get real. It was a foreigner that jumped. Even if a policeman was nearby he would have already started to write a report it was sucide before the guy hit the ground. Police investigation ? blimey this is Thailand !! but in any event, even to the Thai police, not known for their intelligence, it can not take much common sense to realise why the guy jumped could it ? so therefore no investigation needed. Just another selfish foreigner. Many tall buildings he could have jumped from without inconveniencing the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said: Get real. It was a foreigner that jumped. Even if a policeman was nearby he would have already started to write a report it was sucide before the guy hit the ground. Police investigation ? blimey this is Thailand !! but in any event, even to the Thai police, not known for their intelligence, it can not take much common sense to realise why the guy jumped could it ? so therefore no investigation needed. Just another selfish foreigner. Many tall buildings he could have jumped from without inconveniencing the public. Well there's a nice friendly attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 whatever it is, they have to wait for the police for the investigating the crime scene. moreover, do they show utmost respect to the body of the deceased while carrying it away or just like dumping it away? shame really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Sound policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 It really would be very simple to prevent jumpers without 'spoiling the look' of the mall. Add perspex barriers above the wall up to about head height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 What investigation is done by the police? Was there a doubt what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whip Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 "Clean up and carry on" - should be the motto of the UN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 7 hours ago, sanemax said: Or they could have special jumping areas in a secluded spot . Maybe outside around the back on the roof ? Charge people 5000 Baht to enter , to help pay to clean the mess up ? 4 hours ago, scorecard said: Is that really the point, interfereing in police investigations is totally not appropriate and the owners / management of this mall should be told so in very clear terms. Empire Hancock building? Cheech and Chong fans will know what I'm talking about. 5 diving boards so there is never any waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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balo Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I can understand them, they can't scare customers away so better to remove the body asap. But they could prevent people from jumping, not difficult to do , 1.5 meter railing is just not high enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesMad Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Why does nobody suggest the easiest solution?!? Do NOT allow farang in malls anymore, so they can't commit suicides (at least not in malls). Many farang will be happy as well, as they are not being dragged in by their 'better' half ???? Win-win situation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 12 hours ago, sanemax said: Or they could have special jumping areas in a secluded spot . Maybe outside around the back on the roof ? Charge people 5000 Baht to enter , to help pay to clean the mess up ? Dumpster diving out back maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Galactus said: whatever it is, they have to wait for the police for the investigating the crime scene. Suicide is a crime in Malaysia. AFAIK, it's not a crime in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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