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      I need some advice. Im from the USA. I visited Bangkok for three months recently returning to the USA January 23, 2019. During that time I decided to get a retirement visa. I was confused by the regulations, and kind of nervous doing it myself for the first time. So in the beginning of January 2019 while still in Bangkok I saw an attorney. This I think turned out to be a stupid thing to do. He took care of all the paperwork and all that, and got me a retirement visa which I received January 22, 2019. The visa expires April 2020, and I see in my passport I have a multi-entry stamp.

      I told the attorney upon retiring, I would reside in Bangkok. He took me to the Bangkok immigration office to get some kind of visa. he said I needed this before he could apply for the retirement visa. He sent me to Bangkok bank to open an account after I got letter from the American embassy allowing me to do so . The next day he sent me with one of his staff members to the immigration office in Pattaya to apply for the retirement visa. I asked him why not Bangkok. He was a fast talker and told me he has worked with that location before, and it would go quicker. When I arrived there, his staff member spoke to an immigration officer. The staff member told me we had to go to a Bangkok bank branch in Pattaya to open an account. I told him I already opened an account in the Bangkok branch. The staff member said that is what the immigration office is requiring. 

      So on January 22,2019 I returned to the attorneys office in Bangkok and he had my passport back from the Immigration office in Pattaya. It had the retirement visa with the multi-entry stamp. Im planning on moving to Bangkok the first week of June. I will stay in a hotel a couple of weeks while looking for a condo to rent with a years contract. From reading these forums, I see you have to report to immigration every 90 days. And I read it is in the office you received the visa from. This attorney did not even say anything about me reporting every 90 days. Or tell me I had to do any reporting in Pattaya. I departed Bangkok January 23, 2019 and returned to the USA. I wasn't going to return to Thailand for about five months. So I did not leave the 400,000 baht in the Bangkok Bank account. I was planning to wire the 400,000 from my USA account to the Bangkok bank account before returning to Thailand in June.

      Im really confused what this attorney did. I don't want to report to Pattaya every 90 days when he knew my location would be Bangkok. Now Im wondering since I did not leave the 400,000 Baht in the Thai account for five months is that going to be an issue? Again I did this because I was returning to the USA where I reside. So I thought if I wasn't in Thailand for a long period of time, I would not have to keep that money in the Thai account.

       I tried to email and send messages on Line to this attorney I used for explanations of all this. He did not respond. I finely managed to contact him directly on his cell phone. All he did is talk fast, say he's busy, and told me if I had an issue when I arrive back in Thailand call him. He charged me a lot of money for all this visa thing. 

       So Im very concerned now what I should do. Again Im planning to move to Bangkok soon in June. Should I try to get a different attorney to resolve all this? Can I do it myself? Should I just report to immigration in Bangkok after I arrive and explain everything to them? Can immigration revoke my retirement visa because I did not keep the 400,000 baht in the Thai bank account while I returned to the USA for approximately for five months. Even though I still resided in the USA when I received the retirement visa?

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As you are moving your registered address to Bangkok you should submit a change of address form to Bangkok immigration. Once you’ve done that you can make 90 day reports to that office. You could do that on the same visit.

 

I don’t think the Bangkok office will check the balance of your account. If they do they might revoke your permit in which case you can simply do a border run while you decide on plan B.

 

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Don't mind informing how much money did you pay this attorney? I don't think there was any requirement to keep money in the bank. The new requirement to keep money in the bank started in March, I think.


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1 hour ago, swm59nj said:

To avoid getting laughed at, I would rather not say LOL

I can understand you saying that because the lawyer has made a lot of money out of messing you around.

You made a post about your experience, so be prepared to be laughed at.

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2 hours ago, swm59nj said:

To avoid getting laughed at, I would rather not say LOL

credit due for being honest.   probably you will lose a bit of that honesty the longer you live here....  ANYWAY    if you already have the visa based on retirement stamped in your passport then you are good for one year.   As soon as you arrive get receipt from hotel and ask hotel for a tm30 receipt.  If you don't know what that is read up.  Go to BKK immig and tell them you will be living in BKK.   Ask them what date you need to do your 90 day report

by.  AND when to change your address ( immediately upon renting or at 90 day) .  

Sound complicated ?   people here for years still get confused.  Go to immig and smile and ask for help from an immig officer.  write it all down  🙂

Oh,  and you need the retirement money in a bank 3 months before your NEXT renewal (extension of stay)

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i would have thought he paid in the region of 75,000 baht

its a common price for this type of service out of Bangkok

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35 minutes ago, rumak said:

Oh,  and you need the retirement money in a bank 3 months before your NEXT renewal (extension of stay)

2 months.

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I think that since so much of what you've gone through sounds fishy you might be wise to consult with another attorney/law firm (a reputable one) even though you've already got your stamp. You will get a lot of advice on this forum, most of it good from some very knowledgeable expats, some maybe not so right. You might be surprised by how affordable some legal service from a reputable firm, such as Siam Legal, can be. The fact that you don't want to disclose how much you paid this guy for fear of embarrassment probably means you were fleeced. I've heard so many stories of this type. You'll learn. Good luck with your getting your problem solved and good luck with your retirement in Thailand. Always be careful who you trust here.

 

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Yes indeed the process sounds very difficult.

Much better move ur case back to Bkk ur lawyer made it now even more complicated.

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1 hour ago, notamember said:

its a common price for this type of service out of Bangkok

Siam legal advertises for 900USD. But I still think 900USD is high if you've your finances lined up. An agent may be able to do it for $300USD.

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1 minute ago, onera1961 said:

Siam legal advertises for 900USD. 

Wow, when I used them to get my first retirement visa at their Chiang Mai office the total charge for everything was only 12,000 Baht.

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2 minutes ago, nickstav said:

Wow, when I used them to get my first retirement visa at their Chiang Mai office the total charge for everything was only 12,000 Baht.

300USD is a fair price for this kind of visa services. 

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8 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

300USD is a fair price for this kind of visa services. 

Doing it yourself would cost 1900B (about USD60) so five times the price seems quite high to me. Of course if they are "smoothing out" the cash deposit requirements that could be a reason for charging so much extra, but that doesnt seem to be the case for the OP.

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