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I was agreeing with you that they are. I don't have to back up a 'claim' that they are meant to go to the first safe country, which is almost never Australia.

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33 minutes ago, CapraIbex said:

No surprise at all. It's quite natural that one protects his home; It is hard earned and selfishness has nothing to do with it.  And the number of inhabitants of a particular country/city makes hardly a difference.

No one was suggesting a person's home is under threat by any party. Shorten was talking to a fairer form of tax to fund matters such as increased health care, better dental care for pensioners etc etc; obviously a very long shot considering most people only look to themselves. Morrison, unless stopped in the Senate, has promised tax cuts of roughly AUD$180 billion which would mean further cuts to government spending.

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Just now, Orton Rd said:

I was agreeing with you that they are. I don't have to back up a 'claim' that they are meant to go to the first safe country, which is almost never Australia.

Which recognised safe country considering most come from Malaysia / China?

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Plenty of safe countries nearer to Malaysia than Australia, get a map. The Chinese can go to Taiwan, except the Muslims running away, they need to go to an Islamic country, also nearer than Australia, I would suggest Indonesia. Don't think they are great on handouts though are they.

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3 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Plenty of safe countries nearer to Malaysia than Australia, get a map. The Chinese can go to Taiwan, except the Muslims running away, they need to go to an Islamic country, also nearer than Australia, I would suggest Indonesia. Don't think they are great on handouts though are they.

Last post as Mods will step in. Indonesia is not a Safe Country for asylum seekers - look up the definition of Safe Country below...yes the Council is credible

 

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/country-shopping/

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Indonesia says it is safe!

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4 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

He sure is, this is based on "protecting religious people" read christian, he is also fundamentalist christian, background in advertising, former immigration minister who :turned back the boats, and consequently have UN approved refugees in camps on Nauru and Manus Island for over a decade. But happy claps each Sunday.

We live in interesting times.

 

 

If he is the guy that turned back the boats, good for him. Probably saved hundreds if not thousands of lives by doing so.

 

Even "UN approved refugees" do not have the right to jump the queue.

 

Re the OP, who actually believes in those polls anyway? Load of BS, IMO. They ask a few people and based on those answers claim to know what millions more will vote.

Good to see them with the proverbial egg on face though.

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On climate change, the firm response from Nth Queensland needs to be absorbed: All politics is local, and noone - not you, not me, not anyone - is going to vote to have their own job abolished, with no workable alternative, for the sake of saving the planet.

 

And having the spoiled brats of the bourgeoisie come to lecture the workers of the outer suburbs or the mining towns on morality doesn't go down too well.

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41 minutes ago, simple1 said:

No one was suggesting a person's home is under threat by any party. Shorten was talking to a fairer form of tax to fund matters such as increased health care, better dental care for pensioners etc etc; obviously a very long shot considering most people only look to themselves. Morrison, unless stopped in the Senate, has promised tax cuts of roughly AUD$180 billion which would mean further cuts to government spending.

IMO, Labour's past was against them. Who can forget Gillard- scarred for life from her, and the whole boats fiasco.

Governments should not be allowed to waste money, which they are fond of doing, so tax cuts always a good idea.

 

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2 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

On climate change, the firm response from Nth Queensland needs to be absorbed: All politics is local, and noone - not you, not me, not anyone - is going to vote to have their own job abolished, with no workable alternative, for the sake of saving the planet.

 

And having the spoiled brats of the bourgeoisie come to lecture the workers of the outer suburbs or the mining towns on morality doesn't go down too well.

Agreed, but can I point out that the planet will be fine without any people on it. So, not "saving the planet" at all; just keeping people alive to carry on exterminating other species.

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3 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

it's dominated by third world agendas.

The UN is dominated by the Permanent Security Council, none of whom are third world nations.

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2 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

The UN is dominated by the Permanent Security Council, none of whom are third world nations.

Stop spoiling a perfectly good conspiracy theory

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2 hours ago, simple1 said:

Try some contextual comprehension. I was not referencing middle class welfare, but factual info regards NewStart, plus relevant to those reliant on Age Pension and likely other forms of welfare e.g. disability.

Correct. Age pensioners get an armchair ride at Centrelink, compared to the hoops Newstart applicants have to jump through for a significantly lower benefit. Having to apply for 100 jobs a month in order to prove they were seeking work was pure bastardry. Don't know what the required rate of job application is now.

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2 hours ago, CapraIbex said:

"The warning from Scott Morrison that Bill Shorten ignored"

 

Most pertinent to us old farts:
"The retirees were long-time Labor voters but after hearing Mr Morrison’s comments about Labor’s changes to superannuation they told news.com.au they might switch to Liberal."

 

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/the-warning-from-scott-morrison-that-bill-shorten-ignored/news-story/45751965a43f40a8edc5dc353764bf73

Morrison did a scare campaign, just like Abbott did with Gillard/Rudd. Retirees were gullible enough to swallow it. Factually, Shorten had exempted age pensioners and part pensioners from the abolition of franking credit refunds, so it was only self-funded retirees that were affected.

Labor's mistake was trying to do too much in terms of policy at once, thus giving Morrison multiple targets.

The Liberals were a small target because they had no policies.

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2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Morrison did a scare campaign, just like Abbott did with Gillard/Rudd. Retirees were gullible enough to swallow it. Factually, Shorten had exempted age pensioners and part pensioners from the abolition of franking credit refunds, so it was only self-funded retirees that were affected.

Labor's mistake was trying to do too much in terms of policy at once, thus giving Morrison multiple targets.

The Liberals were a small target because they had no policies.

This was the ALP's version of Hewson's Fightback. Hewson lost in 1993; the ALP lost in 2019. There is nothing new under the sun

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