webfact Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Luxury Bangkok condo is like Beijing - Chinese treating it as a hotel Picture: Thai Rath Yet more evidence is coming to light of people illegally renting rooms on a daily basis to tourists. And this one is damning of the Chinese - both owners and visitors. Thai Rath reported that an owners' group on Facebook from "Condo C Ekkamai" (Sukhumvit Soi 63) had reached the end of their tether. Chinese owners of rooms in the luxury condo were renting to hoards of their compatriots. Rentals were daily - illegal under Thai law. At Songkran the condo resembled Beijing, they said. The owners had set up check-in and check-out facilities and baggage storage. There was a team of maids on hand to do the cleaning in between guests. The ongoing problem had been the subject of many complaints to the juristic person who said they were powerless to stop it. The issue is becoming more and more prevalent in Thailand. Only rentals of 30 days plus are allowed to outsiders at condos. Daily rent is against the law. Source: Thai Rath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-05-20 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Chinese doing it - OK, Farangs doing it - A no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith101 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Why else would the Chinese buy up so many Condos if they weren't going to make money from them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverell Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 As normal the Chinese think they are superior beings and can do what they like. Look at Cambodia, it will be the same here in time unless Government policy towards them changes. Which of course is highly unlikely. People warned about the condo fiasco when Thai property developers started aggressively marketing them in China as investment opportunities. There are far too many sold empty condo units and not enough longer term renters around to fill them, so this short term fiasco is the result....and the developers are still building new condos. Crazy. Thailand is doomed if they start to allow Casinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 not a luxury condo no more with day renters, value just dropped big time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said: Chinese doing it - OK, Farangs doing it - A no no. Can you tell me where exactly you read its ok for Chinese to do it and farangs not. The article i read said it was not allowed and this time it was Chinese breaking the law. So please explain to me what i read wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shady86 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Easy. Just build condos only for Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power of life yoga Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, robblok said: Can you tell me where exactly you read its ok for Chinese to do it and farangs not. The article i read said it was not allowed and this time it was Chinese breaking the law. So please explain to me what i read wrong. ???? Get out and enjoy the sunshine???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Power of life yoga said: ???? Get out and enjoy the sunshine???? Nah pointing out that some foreigners have a chip on their shoulder and moan for everything is far more fun. Its not allowed for Thais, Chinese, even white foreigners. Enforcement is lacking unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 in fairness not just the chinese, they just have a bigger slice of the pie due to the volume of their compatriots arriving. a showdown is coming, thai voices are louder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 setting up a check in desk.. hahaha gotta love the balls on these guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 'The ongoing problem had been the subject of many complaints to the juristic person who said they were powerless to stop it. ' As it is illegal maybe arresting and charging the owners might be a start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Orton Rd said: 'The ongoing problem had been the subject of many complaints to the juristic person who said they were powerless to stop it. ' As it is illegal maybe arresting and charging the owners might be a start? Well perhaps that process may be dependent on understanding who the ultimate owners of the condo property complex are are !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Orton Rd said: 'The ongoing problem had been the subject of many complaints to the juristic person who said they were powerless to stop it. ' As it is illegal maybe arresting and charging the owners might be a start? Since when can a Juristic Person arrest and charge anyone with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Leopard Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Orton Rd said: 'The ongoing problem had been the subject of many complaints to the juristic person who said they were powerless to stop it. ' As it is illegal maybe arresting and charging the owners might be a start? Big fines. Then the money should go into the maintenance fund of the jurisdiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Snow Leopard said: Big fines. Then the money should go into the maintenance fund of the jurisdiction. The juristic people are probably taking a cut to turn a blind eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Just Weird said: Since when can a Juristic Person arrest and charge anyone with anything? They cant, of course. But if the condo building's by-laws have a rule about minimum rental durations then it would be easy for the building to impose fines. The trouble is that very few buildings have such rules. They could be introduced if most co-owners are against such rentals. The other possibility is to consider short-term rentals as a business which they undoubtedly are. Business activities are prohibited outside of designated non-residential areas of the building by the condo act and usually by building by-laws too. So in that case it might also be possible to impose fines or cut off access to common services like the pool and elevators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, KittenKong said: ut if the condo building's by-laws have a rule about minimum rental durations then it would be easy for the building to impose fines. The trouble is that very few buildings have such rules. They could be introduced if most co-owners are against such rentals. I'm aware of at least two condos in Bangkok where the lobby and the lifts are littered with signs in English, Thai and Chinese warning against short-term lets and threatening legal or even police action. Tourists struggle by them with their large suitcases almost hourly ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said: I'm aware of at least two condos in Bangkok where the lobby and the lifts are littered with signs in English, Thai and Chinese warning against short-term lets and threatening legal or even police action. Tourists struggle by them with their large suitcases almost hourly Surely, but those are probably buildings that dont have any internal rules to enforce. If they had the rules they could stop these short-term renters quite quickly, without needing signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, JonnyF said: The juristic people are probably taking a cut to turn a blind eye. Turn a blind eye !!!!!!!!! They are running it Money Number 1 This is happening in Pattaya as well The only people that have the power to change it our hotel owners who are losing the business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetphet Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 I had a visit by the authorities two weeks ago here in Samui looking for just this sort of thing. Answered the door to immigration, army, military police Ministry of Internal affair etc etc. Checked my passport and visa, asked me lots of questions, and left "apparently" satisfied. I live full time in my apartment with my girlfriend, and have never rented out. I expect there will be more of these types of visits as the Thai hotel and resort owners try to stop their business being undercut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigand Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 The Thais and other countries so eager to embrace Beijing are going to pay a high price for jumping in bed with the Devil so wantonly and things like this are just the start. The western countries and trading blocks can be annoying and self-righteous but at least you know where you stand with them generally. With China, no strings attached bearing cheap loans and smooth words with big promises but all also with a massive dash of opaqueness. You want to trust them ... good luck with that as they only ever do anything that benefits themselves. In 20 years SEA will effectively have been annexed by China without a shot being fired ... maybe the Viets will resist as they don't really like or get along with the Chinese too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend49 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Brigand said: The Thais and other countries so eager to embrace Beijing are going to pay a high price for jumping in bed with the Devil so wantonly and things like this are just the start. The western countries and trading blocks can be annoying and self-righteous but at least you know where you stand with them generally. With China, no strings attached bearing cheap loans and smooth words with big promises but all also with a massive dash of opaqueness. You want to trust them ... good luck with that as they only ever do anything that benefits themselves. In 20 years SEA will effectively have been annexed by China without a shot being fired ... maybe the Viets will resist as they don't really like or get along with the Chinese too well. So happy Thais are hurting pay back for the way they treat aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter14 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 again Thailand should grow up... the law is archaic. the whole world can rent daily but Thailand... oh no we Thai! well, Hotel should lower their rate that's it!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Power of life yoga said: ???? Get out and enjoy the sunshine???? No, you should answer his legitimate question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, peter14 said: again Thailand should grow up... the law is archaic. the whole world can rent daily but Thailand... oh no we Thai! well, Hotel should lower their rate that's it!. No, the whole world cannot rent out condos on a daily basis. There are many municipalities that prohibit this unless you are duly licensed and those licenses are limited to prevent exactly what is happening in this story. As an example, Honolulu prohibits daily rentals (< 30 days) without a license. The city stopped issuing those in 1989 and there are less than 1000 legally licensed daily rental condos there now. If they are caught, violators face a fine of $10,000/day. But that hasn't stopped the Chinese there. Now they are buying up houses, demolishing them and constructing what are called "monster houses" with as many as 29 bedrooms on a relatively small lot, and then renting those rooms short term to their countrymen. That is illegal as well, but much easier to fly under the radar than a condo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuaHinHim Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 The Chinese are invading all corners of the globe, just watched a 60 minutes program where they Have destroyed part of a reef in Fiji for a casino and condos and have blocked legitimate owners from their land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, geoffbezoz said: Chinese doing it - OK, Farangs doing it - A no no. Yes. They are powerless to do anything about the submarine and Railway merchants. How many European or farang owners in that complex are doing daily rentals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, peter14 said: again Thailand should grow up... the law is archaic. the whole world can rent daily but Thailand... oh no we Thai! well, Hotel should lower their rate that's it!. When/if you can ever afford to buy a condo, this will all make perfect sense... ...until then, your 3000 baht fan room will probably have nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan B Tong Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Having laws on the books is meaningless without enforcement. That's why I love it here. This is just another example of the anarchy that is Thailand. an·ar·chy /ˈanərkē/ noun a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.thumb.jpg.b113dd8a15d489ebf9d50ccd19e4d874.jpg)
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.