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14 hours ago, Jigglypuff said:

would greatly appreciate if you can answer any of the following... 

1. What essentials should I bring with me? What is hard to get on the island?

2. Is it safe? Will my place likely be broken into? 

3. Is a budget of 45,000 a month realistic? I will be living alone. 

4. What is there to do in the rainy season?

5. Is it easy to make friends with other expats in their 20s, 30s?

6. What is the health care like? How much is basic health insurance? 

7. What are the benefits of Ko samui over Phuket for example?

1. What essentials should I bring with me? What is hard to get on the island?
The only thing I find hard to get on the island is a "cheese cutter", and spare strings for the same. Everything else I need can be found locally now – quite different from the first few years I visited Samui, and also a period right after I "moved" to here – and few items not easily accessable, or with limited assortment, can be found on Thai Internet shop "Lazada", and arrive within a few days.

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2. Is it safe? Will my place likely be broken into? 

In general its safe, but there have been few cases about someone that broke into other's places. It might also be a question of where you stay, the neighbors, and that you don't flash that there are easy access valuable in your "home".

 

3. Is a budget of 45,000 a month realistic? I will be living alone.

Budget is like a rubber-string, depending of life-style. Some foreigners can life from next-to-nothing, like many Thais, others can easily spend a minor fortune in no time (relative, "minor" might be a major fortune for some of us).

In general you can "survive" – if not fine, then Okay – for 45,000 baht a month; however, if you wish to live Western-style, if might be about same living costs as living in a Western country.

If you don't drink (too much), don't smoke (too much) – you don't mention your gender, so it might not be valid to say "don't invite too many ladies home" – and eat more local food than imported food, you can live well for 45k baht a month, counting ca. 1/3 for a home (rent/electricity/Internet); 1/3 for food (about 500 baht a day in average); and 1/3 for others (you might consider transportation, eventually renting a motorbike for a few thousand baht a month).

 

4. What is there to do in the rainy season?

Officially rainy season is from mid April till early Januar – rainy season will however begin end of May this year, according to the Thai meteorological Institute – but its not really raining, some refreshing showers. Heavy rain comes from around mid October, and can last till mid January, that is the monsoon-season. Its not raining every day, you can have excellent calm weather with lots of sun, but it can be a week, or up to two weeks, with rain; and when its raining, its raining a lot.

There are almost about the same "to do" as when its not raining, apart from some outdoor activities, and outdoor sport – and the sea might not be swim-able or passable due to waves – its depending of your interests. Pubs are open to meet friends; Internet mostly available during rain (power breaks can appear); the island has two cinemas with 6 rooms, so an English-language film might be an option, or the challenge for enjoying a genuine Thai-movie (often with ghosts); if the island is not flooded then a visit to the nightlife is still possible and enjoy some live-music and discos; also evening and night markets are normally open.

 

5. Is it easy to make friends with other expats in their 20s, 30s?

Its easy, if you are open for friendship – you might also find Thai friends within that age-range – some younger people stay here on Work Permit-extensions, and some study Thai-language, and some might manage to stay here as expats on other conditions.

If you are into sport like football, or running, or biking, you could join some of those groups, they might include younger folks.

However, there are lots of young people coming to the island as tourists, or for long holidays, especially Chaweng Beach is where they mingle. Its worth visiting the night life there, where there are a variety of places to meet fellow young folks, for example at the beach parties, or in the popular pubs – to mention a few, for example Ark Bar's Wednesday or Friday beach party in central Chaweng area, The Beach Bar in Chaweng Noi, Henry's Out of Africa, and like pubs in the central area, some with live-bands – or visit a few discos like Green Mango Club, or Hush. Numerous of the expats also come these places, but if working, or studying, its just like in one's home country, you might not head of in the nightlife every night, but a few week-ends a month.

 

6. What is the health care like? How much is basic health insurance?

The health care, or rather the hospitals are excellent.

There is a government hospital in Nathon, "Samui Hospital", which is fine and affordable, and for a relative small surcharge you can have a VIP-room that levels what private hospitals offers.

There are four private hospitals: Bandon Hospital in Bo Phut (next to BigC); Thai International Hospital in Bo Phut (opposite Tesco-Lotus); Samui International Hospital in Chaweng (northern end of Beach Road); and Bangkok Samui Hospital in Chaweng Noi (by the Ring Road).
Health insurance are depending of age and coverage, but obtainable from around 15,000 baht a year; however the coverage at that premium range might be financially limited to government hospitals only.
In another post you mentioned, that you are going to work on the island. Your employer might offer you Thai "Social Security", which includes health care. If your employer don't offer Social Security – for example are schools excepted – you can still join Social Security voluntarily. The US SS have a good description of Thai SS here. If you are covered by SS you might not need a health insurance.

 

7. What are the benefits of Ko samui over Phuket for example?

Depending of who you ask.

For me, there are no comparison – little rude said, Phuket is an over flocked package tourist destination, however depending of where on Phuket you stay, and in which levels you mingle – Samui is still a Bounty-style-coconut-palm-paradise-island, however depending of where on Samui you stay, and in which levels you mingle.
Benefits for my life-style, which mean looked through my eyes only: An island with limited access due to ferry, and relative expensive air fares; numerous beautiful beaches and ocean views; fairly unspoiled nature in the middle of the island; a great party-life for younger folks (like me...🤣); a fairly relaxed life-style; not too big a community; never too warm, and never too cold; little less average annual downpour than Phuket with 3-month heavy rainy season, whilst Phuket has 5-month heavy rainy season.
Negative point: Traffic, which however is also a negative point on Phuket, but one get used to it, and one know when to avoid heading out in rush-hours.

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Wow thank you for the replies, in particular KhunPer- so much information. Thank you! 

 

I don’t need to live Western style - I have simple tastes and lifestyle, love Thai food, but occasionally may need a western fix. 

 

And a cheese cutter... erm can’t say I’ve ever owned one I just use a knife or hands so think i’ll be okay! Haha. 

 

Seems like healthcare can be taken care of. If I develop a serious condition I can always move back home, I’m more concerned about getting in a car accident or something and not having the funds to get sorted. 

 

One more query.. What about decent coffee? I am a coffee lover and need my daily cup or three. If I bring a cafetière/French press is it ways enough to get coffee for it? Do cafes have good coffee? 

 

Thank you soo much!! 

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6 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

You have misquoted, I didnt say "I still need to work" or quote a salary, the OP said that.

No the widget just misquoted - I think we know who said it.

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2 hours ago, Jigglypuff said:

Wow thank you for the replies, in particular KhunPer- so much information. Thank you! 

 

I don’t need to live Western style - I have simple tastes and lifestyle, love Thai food, but occasionally may need a western fix. 

 

And a cheese cutter... erm can’t say I’ve ever owned one I just use a knife or hands so think i’ll be okay! Haha. 

 

Seems like healthcare can be taken care of. If I develop a serious condition I can always move back home, I’m more concerned about getting in a car accident or something and not having the funds to get sorted. 

 

One more query.. What about decent coffee? I am a coffee lover and need my daily cup or three. If I bring a cafetière/French press is it ways enough to get coffee for it? Do cafes have good coffee? 

 

Thank you soo much!! 

Coffee is OK but not GREAT ...... there is of course Starbucks and things lick that and a couple of French boulangeries. I don't drink much coffee in Thailand, but in Laos it's a different matter - proper French coffee.

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3 hours ago, khunPer said:

The health care, or rather the hospitals are excellent.

No they are not - healthcare in Thailand in general is a lottery - anyone with even the slightest medical knowledge will notiv=ce procedural flaws as soon as they enter any hospital here. There is no GP system, no proper emergency services and the doctors are amazingly under-trained.

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As you're young health insurance is going to be cheap for you. 

Calculate 1500 / month on that. 

 

You can get good coffee depending on your taste, you have hundred of restaurants from every corner of the world on the island. 

Starbucks is NOT classified as good coffee. 

 

As for rainy season, for me it's mid Oct - mid Dec. 

January - May, dry lucky to get a shower. 

May - Oct, half hour shower usually at sunset. 

 

As for getting a legal job, forget it. 

You have to have income from abroad or own a business. 

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5 hours ago, Jigglypuff said:

One more query.. What about decent coffee? I am a coffee lover and need my daily cup or three. If I bring a cafetière/French press is it ways enough to get coffee for it? Do cafes have good coffee? 

There are numerous Okay cafés, chains mainly in shopping malls and Chaweng, but some local pubs and restaurants serves fine coffee. The prices in brand name chains can be little up-priced relative to a 45k baht budget – still recall my Danish friend that ordered a coffee in Starbucks in a shopping mall, and when he got the coffee, and the price, he said: »I just ordered a coffee, I didn't ask to buy the shop!« – the Thai-brand chain "Black Canyon" is about same, or better, quality, but lower price (I'm happy to drink their cappuccino); however, you also pay for the location, when you drink your coffee, even when its a take away.

 

I read in the news today that my home country town, Copenhagen, is the most expensive place in the World to buy a cup of coffee – bullsh*t, I'll never forget my tiny mocha a Carlton Hotel in Cannes in 1979 for 52 francs, which recalculated for inflation would be four-and-a-half times as much as a large cappuccino in Copenhagen today – Samui seems like a relative cheap coffee-destination...😉

 

You can also try Thai-way-of-coffee, if you can drink (very) sweet fresh coffee; its actually nice as ice coffee, and available in malls, and markets, and from vehicle street kitchens (motorbike with a sidecar).

 

If you wish to make your own coffee, then the Bon Café shop opposite shopping mall The Wharf in Bo Phut/Fisherman Village sells both machines and coffee. The major super market malls – BigC, and Makro, and Tesco-Lotus, and probably Top in Central Festival – also have a variety of different coffee brands, and beans, including the Bon Café-brand. As @PoorSucker says, its "depending of your taste".

 

HomePro, by Tesco-Lotus in Bo Phut/Chaweng, offers a selection of fancy coffee, and espresso machines, whilst the super markets BigC and Tesco-Lotus sells normal filter coffee machines from a few hundred baht. I've also seen copies of the Danish Bodum piston coffee container, actually a friend bought some for his restaurant, and they worked as well as the original brand, the original Bodum brand can be ordered from Lazada or Central Online.
 

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We can't start a day, without "a damn fine cup of coffee"...🙂

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Again lots of helpful replies which have very much helped!! Relieved my coffee addiction can be met! Not a fan of Starbucks or other chain type places or their prices, would much rather support local cafes etc if possible.

 

 

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Your 45k will stretch double in Pattaya compared to Samui. 

 

Samui is expensive 45k wont be enough. Some poster said a 2 bedroom house for 8 to 12 k, where? Miles away from where a young gun wants to hangout and then need a car or motorbike

 

I dont live in Pattaya but visit often from BKK

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Plenty of accommodation between 8 & 10 k you could move into one right now in several locations.... up to 2 bedroom new houses etc.... 

 

I've lived in Thailand for nearly 20 years and was pleasantly surprised by how cheap accommodation on the island was....largely due to over-supply.

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On 5/21/2019 at 12:11 AM, Jigglypuff said:

Thanks for your reply. Nope never visited. It’s not practical for me to do that.

 

I can always leave if I don’t like it. Nothing is permanent. But sometimes you have to take a risk and go for it... 

 

 

 

 

 

Incredible... 🤢🤪🤪🤪👻

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