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BANGKOK 17 June 2019 19:36
webfact

Giving birth to an uncomfortable truth

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As I understand it dual nationality is allowed in Thailand and the US. I did know a girl, though, who had to make choice between Thai and US citizenship at age 18. She went for Thai. I guess that was under antiquated laws. Anyway, my point is not everyone thinks being Thai is such a bad thing. 

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Editorial: The US constitution deems anyone born in the country an American citizen. 

 

In 2005, Ireland amended its constitution to become the last country in Europe to abolish unconditional jus soli citizenship, as a direct result of concerns over birth tourism. - Wiki

 

The U.S. should do something to correct the previous interpretations of the 14 Constitutional Amendment to get this practice and birth tourism stopped!

 

But I fear it is too late now, especially with the influx of illegal migrants of voting age - a problem that is even more severe IMHO.

 

Editorial: Many believe she offended Thai people’s honour by making such a suggestion. After all, what’s wrong with being born in Thailand?

 

One can't be a U.S. anchor baby if one is born in Thailand! Next question... ?

 

Editorial: After all, if a mid-ranking police officer with a medical degree and a promising career still feels reluctant about raising a child in Thailand, perhaps we need to ask what’s wrong here.

 

How does the writer know the child will not be raised in Thailand? Is she applying for permanent residency in the U.S. based solely on her child's probable U.S. citizenship?


Editorial: What’s the problem with giving birth in Thailand. [sic]

Is it the medical facilities or is it the lack of opportunities for children to grow and develop.  [sic]

 

Tough questions. Let me think about this for a while and I'll get back to you ...

 

 

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2 hours ago, webfact said:

Or are we and our leaders just wrapping ourselves proudly in the Thai flag so we don’t have to address these uncomfortable questions.

Years ago my Thai wife hounded me for months to get our daughter's American passport done. Why? She said "A person has more choices."

 

Having said that, I grew up in America and have lived in Thailand for a little over two decades. Unfortunately, even with all this experience I am not an expert about either country. But here is one observation that I have made. I often see Thai people walking around with t-shirts that display American symbols of some sort. And I don't see many Thais wearing t-shirts representing Thailand...

 

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2 hours ago, webfact said:

Many believe she offended Thai people’s honour by making such a suggestion. After all, what’s wrong with being born in Thailand?

The illiterate ones and the ones in the junta could be. True honor in Thailand? Not going to go there.

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Anchulee may have violated snobbish bureaucratic culture by highlighting the not-so-promising side of the Thai state and society, but did 

she violate protocol?

I bet she put some sour grapes in their 1000 dollar wine for sure!

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai nationalism, like nationalism elsewhere, has long been exploited by public figures and political leaders for their own gains.

This is what Thailand is all about. Nationalism for the Junta and the Elite. Certainly does not seems it is for the general citizens.

2 hours ago, webfact said:

After all, if a mid-ranking police officer with a medical degree and a promising career still feels reluctant about raising a child in Thailand, perhaps we need to ask what’s wrong here.

 

Yeah, USA has many things that are great and many down falls as well. But at least they are genuine for who is born on their soil from any country. But if the intention was to fool the system then the kid(s) should not be granted citizenship. USA should actually match each countries behavior to how the react to other countries procedures for having babies on their soil to non citizens. Thailand should be not allowed citizenship in the USA. Period!
 

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Same thing happened in H.K. the mainland Chinese started coming over as tourists , then dropping ankle bitters, it became such a problem that the locals had a struggle getting a bed to drop their own , basically because of the privilege abuse ,  H.K. had to ban anyone from the mainland traveling, that were preggers or refused admission into the matty ward and sent back home.

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