webfact Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Prayut warns horse-trading could hurt govt’s credibility By KAS CHANWANPEN THE NATION PM General Prayut Chan-o-cha shows the press a small durian that will be displayed at the upcoming roadshow, Thailand Fruit Festival 2019. Junta chief ready to lead large coalition and implement policies of political partners JUNTA CHIEF General Prayut Chan-o-cha has warned that the current horse-trading among politicians could hurt the next government’s credibility. Prayut, however, denied that he or his close colleague, General Prawit Wongsuwan, had participated in any negotiation, stressing it was for the political parties to discuss and sort out. Prayut also put a positive spin on a coalition of some 16 parties led by Phalang Pracharat Party forming the next government, brushing aside concerns over stability. “It’s okay. We have to look at it positively,” Prayut said. “With multiple parties, it can be good in a way that we can try to implement all the policies they have promised the voters.” Phalang Pracharat only won 115 seats in the lower house and will have to rely on medium-sized and minor parties to form a government. Experts believe such a multiparty government will be unstable. Each party could pursue its own agenda, making administration difficult for the government. Prayut’s offer to implement the election promises of all coalition partners could be viewed as a veiled message to Bhumjaithai Party. The medium-sized party, with 51 MPs from the recent election, has the power to determine which bloc – pro-junta or anti-junta – forms the government. Its leader Anutin Charnvirakul was even tipped to be offered the PM’s post, but he has rested his decision on how each bloc welcomes his party’s policy to legalise marijuana. Prayut said yesterday that one of the perks of a multi-party government could be the variety of policies and he personally viewed them positively. However, citing legislation, Prayut admitted not all policies could come through. “Even though I have significant power, I cannot make everything possible,” he said. “I hope that the next government would just continue the good things. Politics should work that way. It’s not competition and all these positions are not for trading. “Today, the parties are discussing among themselves. Please do not involve me in it. I won’t interfere with that,” Prayut said. “I think everything depends on mutual understanding about what the country needs right now. If it prolongs for too long, it would hurt the economy and international confidence.” He said he could not make any call now, as he was not the head of the new government. He, however, made it clear that once he takes charge, the Cabinet members would have to be decided by him. Prayut also dismissed news reports published overseas that the next PM could be founder of the CP Group, Dhanin Chearavanont. “How could that be? I have no idea about that,” he told the press. Meanwhile, junta No 2 General Prawit denied all reports that he had held discussions with different parties over the next Parliament. However, when asked about Prayut wanting him to return and continue as defence minister after the new government is set up, Prawit said: “If that’s what he wants. But nobody knows about the future. Prayut does not know if he could be the PM or not.” In a related development, former Democrat leader Banyat Banthadthan yesterday said he did not want to become the speaker of the lower house. Banyat thanked fellow MPs for considering him, saying it was an honour as the post was the head of one of the three pillars of parliamentary democracy. He, however, said he would rather be an ordinary MP. He said he wanted independence and freedom to work more in rural areas to sort out public issues, adding there were other Democrat MPs who had the credentials to take this post. Meanwhile, in the junta-appointed upper house, former president of the now-defunct National Legislative Assembly (NLA) reportedly would return as speaker of the Senate. The first and the second deputy speaker posts would go to former NLA member Singhsuek Singhprai and former Election Commission president Supachai Somcharoen respectively. The vote would take place this Friday when Parliament opens. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30369769 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-05-22 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Thanks uncle because you are and were so squeaky clean it is wise not to “horse-trade” but to kneel to your great leadership and wisdom thanks once again for the heads up uncle ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, webfact said: “Even though I have significant power, I cannot make everything possible,” Unless I utilise Article 44, that's why we introduced it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said: Unless I utilise Article 44, that's why we introduced it ! He is still figuring out a way to apply article 44 to Mother Nature , she is just refusing to obey ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: JUNTA CHIEF General Prayut Chan-o-cha has warned that the current horse-trading among politicians could hurt the next government’s credibility. The whole election process has already seen to that. Then the constitutionally prescribed process for appointing the next PM is another blow to any remaining credibility. Credibility will be in short supply for the whole parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: trading among politicians could hurt the next government’s credibility. lot of us have our minds already made up on that credibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokfrog Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 JUNTA CHIEF General Prayut Chan-o-cha has warned that the current horse-trading among politicians could hurt the next government’s credibility. I hope this is not the case, but this comment sounds like a great excuse for a further coup to ensure yet another 'credible' government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Hurt the governments credibility !!! Surely he is not serious, as he has hurt the governments credibilty more than anyone with all his shenanigans, and lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 You can not hurt or damage anything that is already non-existant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 If Prawit says they are not talking to other parties regarding what they can get for deserting democracy then you have to believe him. Has he done anything in the past to make people think he could possibly be dishonest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 hours ago, webfact said: Prayut said. “With multiple parties, it can be good in a way that we can try to implement all the policies they have promised the voters.” Yes, for example, one party wants to end conscription and another party wants to continue it, so we will try both ways. Ingenious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 hours ago, webfact said: Prayut warns horse-trading could hurt govt’s credibility I think with his past experience of shouting at people and threatening journalists, he has a reputation of hoarse-trading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Such a Snow White guy! Birds flying around his head and squirrels running around with all the animals and butterflies singing General Aprirat's favorite military song for him in praise. How special! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend49 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Prayut warns horse-trading could hurt govt’s credibility Thats about 4 years too late, next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 3 hours ago, webfact said: He, however, made it clear that once he takes charge, the Cabinet members would have to be decided by him. And there you have it football fans - not if he takes charge, once he takes charge! The bottom line - the partners, allies and coalition friends; you can have your ministries, your benefits and little wives. But the big trough already has a daddy pig and the slops ain't for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Horse trading is the only way to rid the country of a meddling military. The army makes Thailand look like a banana republic. cha cha's perception of things nothing short of dim. How are negotiations and debate harmful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Henry Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 What is the point of Paliament sitting next week when there is no Goverment and no opposition. Confused on how they will make any decisions or enact any legislation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonrawdcnx Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Hahaha could hurt the government’s credibility !!!??? What credibility has his “government” had for the last 5 years? Is this guy for real? People like him have been the shame of the human race for centuries - so full of themselves that they don’t even realize anymore how incredibly stupid they are! Please do us all a favor and just die! You would be surprised how you just fade away and how unimportant you really are! The world will be a better place and nobody is going to miss you! And take fatty with you - but tell him to leave his watches to a friend. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: “Today, the parties are discussing among themselves. Please do not involve me in it. I won’t interfere with that,” Prayut said. This article doesn't sound like a "no comment" to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I can not understand.. Most of us do not like Prayuth and his clique who took power by force a few years ago. Which act. But most of you do not like the Thaksin family either; do you like who? Who would you like to lead the next government? Do you believe that the USA, Japan, France, Germany and many other European countries are real democracies? I exclude the countries of Africa, Central America and South America which are anything but democracies. There is no corruption in the countries I just mentioned? (the only real democratic country in the world is Switzerland, I am not Swiss). In fact there is much more than in Thailand at a level not comparable; a single example, the case of fregates sold by France to Taiwan .. Retro commissions have amounted to several billion euros; retro commissions that have evaporated into much deeper pockets than those of the Thai military. Digging a little, O not much! we will discover thousands of cases of corruption in our beautiful so-called democratic countries where the power is actually in the hands of a few billionaires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said: I can not understand.. Most of us do not like Prayuth and his clique who took power by force a few years ago. Which act. But most of you do not like the Thaksin family either; do you like who? Who would you like to lead the next government? Do you believe that the USA, Japan, France, Germany and many other European countries are real democracies? I exclude the countries of Africa, Central America and South America which are anything but democracies. There is no corruption in the countries I just mentioned? (the only real democratic country in the world is Switzerland, I am not Swiss). In fact there is much more than in Thailand at a level not comparable; a single example, the case of fregates sold by France to Taiwan .. Retro commissions have amounted to several billion euros; retro commissions that have evaporated into much deeper pockets than those of the Thai military. Digging a little, O not much! we will discover thousands of cases of corruption in our beautiful so-called democratic countries where the power is actually in the hands of a few billionaires./ What's your point? S*** happens with other governments so why even bother? Democracy isn't perfect. There is no perfect political system. But some are better than others. Countries should look at some of the best political systems around the world, and wait for it,................................try to be even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasane Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Horses have feelings too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasane Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said: I can not understand.. Most of us do not like Prayuth and his clique who took power by force a few years ago. Which act. But most of you do not like the Thaksin family either; do you like who? Who would you like to lead the next government? Do you believe that the USA, Japan, France, Germany and many other European countries are real democracies? I exclude the countries of Africa, Central America and South America which are anything but democracies. There is no corruption in the countries I just mentioned? (the only real democratic country in the world is Switzerland, I am not Swiss). In fact there is much more than in Thailand at a level not comparable; a single example, the case of fregates sold by France to Taiwan .. Retro commissions have amounted to several billion euros; retro commissions that have evaporated into much deeper pockets than those of the Thai military. Digging a little, O not much! we will discover thousands of cases of corruption in our beautiful so-called democratic countries where the power is actually in the hands of a few billionaires. I am sure you know that TV is basically a thai bashing site by foreigners. Trolls and bots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 He made the constitution that favored small parties and made it so new parties could rise (Future forward) and now complains that coalitions requires horse trading. I come from the Netherlands where coalitions always mean horse trading just like it does here. He made it all not credible and now blames others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, robblok said: He made the constitution that favored small parties and made it so new parties could rise (Future forward) and now complains that coalitions requires horse trading. I come from the Netherlands where coalitions always mean horse trading just like it does here. He made it all not credible and now blames others. It's more likely those above Prayut made it credible, but I agree it doesn't stop him shooting his mouth off - it's what he's good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, bluesofa said: It's more likely those above Prayut made it credible, but I agree it doesn't stop him shooting his mouth off - it's what he's good at. They should get rid of constituencies and just let people vote for the party they like best without that crazy constituency thing. Saves a lot of problems later with calculation. That is how we do it back in the Netherlands. Though we have constituencies but they have separate elections and governing bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 In the words of John McEnroe, "You cannot be serious!" ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 47 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said: I can not understand.. Most of us do not like Prayuth and his clique who took power by force a few years ago. Which act. But most of you do not like the Thaksin family either; do you like who? Who would you like to lead the next government? Do you believe that the USA, Japan, France, Germany and many other European countries are real democracies? I exclude the countries of Africa, Central America and South America which are anything but democracies. There is no corruption in the countries I just mentioned? (the only real democratic country in the world is Switzerland, I am not Swiss). In fact there is much more than in Thailand at a level not comparable; a single example, the case of fregates sold by France to Taiwan .. Retro commissions have amounted to several billion euros; retro commissions that have evaporated into much deeper pockets than those of the Thai military. Digging a little, O not much! we will discover thousands of cases of corruption in our beautiful so-called democratic countries where the power is actually in the hands of a few billionaires. And a better system of Government than democracy is?????? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 7 hours ago, webfact said: Prayut warns horse-trading could hurt govt’s credibility Too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tajasia Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 hours ago, YetAnother said: lot of us have our minds already made up on that credibility 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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