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Kenny202

Repatriating back to Australia single dad

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23 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

I'm a bit on the fence about that. As far as education yes definitely better in Australia and maybe more opportunities but I spent the latter part of my middle years basing all of my life around children's education, private schools etc and not one of my children picked up the ball. Was a waste of money and effort really. A lot of that depends on the kid. Funnily enough they are all doing well now. After leaving school with poor results 2 went through all the hoops to qualify for Uni and both have medical degrees now and study junkies. And as far as better quality of life.....sitting in traffic every morning, to go and sit in an office or otherwise chained to a job you hate for the rest of your life, then retire and die...albeit with a lot of toys and assets, not sure that's the good life. Don't forget he has Aussie citizenship so he can take advantages of all of those opportunities later on. Life here is good in many ways. For some anyway. Why very hard for Thais to live in another country. My son being half Aussie / Thai and pretty much looking 100% farang will definitely have an advantage. 

My Thai wife and I moved to Bangkok when our two luk krung boys were 4 & 2.  They attended good Thai schools.  When they were 16 and 14 we returned to the USA so that they could go to high school there in preparation for attending university in the USA.  It worked out well and they both graduated from university.  At 33 & 31 they are both doing well in their chosen careers.  They occasionally visit Thailand but not that often.  My oldest one actually handles the Bangkok account of the high tech company that he works for.

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On 5/23/2019 at 9:44 AM, Hanuman2547 said:

Not being from OZ, I'm not up on all the government options available to you.  However, your son will definitely have a better life growing up in a western nation when compared to Thailand.

a better life according to you? ha ha. Everyone's different

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17 hours ago, madmen said:

Kids come first or dont make them. !st world education or risk them ending up in a thai 7/11 for life

Lots of folk are happy working in 7/11, and can afford to buy their own homes.

My 30yo son back in the UK works in the Co-Op and is happy enough, but will never own his own home.

 

Education isn't for everyone, some just aren't interested, some just aren't bright enough to benefit.

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3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Lots of folk are happy working in 7/11, and can afford to buy their own homes.

My 30yo son back in the UK works in the Co-Op and is happy enough, but will never own his own home.

 

Education isn't for everyone, some just aren't interested, some just aren't bright enough to benefit.

Sure but manual labour here is poorly paid where in the west it can pay huge $$. Think of plumber or electrician , Air con technician ( just paid 800 baht for a repair)working in the mines, even painters get A thousand a week or more

These are all paid peanuts here .so much more opportunity for children to prosper in 1st world there is no denying it.

 

Once they finish their education they can go back to Thailand to live if they want so have 2 choices

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On 5/23/2019 at 7:01 AM, Kenny202 said:

I'm a bit on the fence about that. As far as education yes definitely better in Australia and maybe more opportunities but I spent the latter part of my middle years basing all of my life around children's education, private schools etc and not one of my children picked up the ball. Was a waste of money and effort really. A lot of that depends on the kid. Funnily enough they are all doing well now. After leaving school with poor results 2 went through all the hoops to qualify for Uni and both have medical degrees now and study junkies. And as far as better quality of life.....sitting in traffic every morning, to go and sit in an office or otherwise chained to a job you hate for the rest of your life, then retire and die...albeit with a lot of toys and assets, not sure that's the good life. Don't forget he has Aussie citizenship so he can take advantages of all of those opportunities later on. Life here is good in many ways. For some anyway. Why very hard for Thais to live in another country. My son being half Aussie / Thai and pretty much looking 100% farang will definitely have an advantage. 

He will only have an advantage if you give him one which means doing the best you can for your child - putting him in a Thai School is not doing the best you can. 

 

 

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If you have enough money to live in Thailand indefinitely, then I would be inclined to stay. What you have you hold. This also assumes no setting up of businesses or seeking employment in LOS. The one counterbalance would be if you had an immediately saleable employment skill in Australia. IMHO.

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3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Lots of folk are happy working in 7/11, and can afford to buy their own homes.

My 30yo son back in the UK works in the Co-Op and is happy enough, but will never own his own home.

Education isn't for everyone, some just aren't interested, some just aren't bright enough to benefit.

Buying own home on 7/11 salary? Really?

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6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

He will only have an advantage if you give him one which means doing the best you can for your child - putting him in a Thai School is not doing the best you can.

Doing the best is cutting your coat according to your cloth. Kid in Thai school may be the best available option.

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On 5/22/2019 at 10:37 AM, mike787 said:

Everything happens for a reason.

This statement is the literary equivalent of patting someone on the head.

 

On 5/22/2019 at 9:44 PM, Hanuman2547 said:

Not being from OZ...your son will definitely have a better life growing up in a western nation when compared to Thailand.

Depends on what you think they'll want out of life.  Western nations tend to have some of the most educated and highest compensated workers, but also much higher rates of loneliness and depression.

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7 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Buying own home on 7/11 salary? Really?

10K a month will get you a 600k home loan.

You can get a condo in CM or a house in the burbs for 750k.

But lots of people live as couples, with 2 incomes, where I live there's often 3 or 4 wage earners in one house.

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On 5/23/2019 at 11:34 AM, Peterw42 said:

The OP is right about access to super they added years a couple of years ago, born before 1960 its 55, born 1961 it 56, 1962 its 57 etc. So if OP is born 1963 he has to be 58 to get super. (any super prior to 60 year old is taxed)

Also they have newstart program now if you are over 60 and do some volunteer work (i think its 10 hours a fortnight) you dont have to look for work.

The asset test for newstart is $400k and money still in a super-fund isnt counted. you dont have to spend your savings to get newstart.

 

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You can apply and get the pension without the 2 years, the 2 years is to do with whether you can take it overseas. You can arrive the day before your 65th birthday apply and get the pension the next day, you just cant take it overseas for another 2 years.

Takes about 13 weeks for Age Pension application to be processed. If on NewStart or not, can apply for Age Pension prior to Age Pension commencement date.

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On 5/22/2019 at 8:14 PM, Kenny202 said:

What is the situation in Australia now? It would be very likely I would have to be on some unemployment benefit in the short, maybe long term. I assume there would be supplements / benefits for my child, maybe rent assistance etc. I remember some time back basically if you were over 50yo in Australia they didn't even expect you to look for a job. Do you qualify for this if you have Superannuation or money in the bank?

Kenny,  I'm not a single dad but I can answer a few questions for you ....

Australia is expensive, try buying any item for the household or groceries or electricity or rent any accomodation. Thailand is still way cheaper and easier to get anything done.

You will be entitled to newstart allowance which you will receive with rent assistance and child allowance. ( but don't for a second think this will be any substantial amount ) ... you will be living like a porper, very frugalent and watching every cent ... basically you will be living fortnight to fortnight on budget meals etc ...

Being over 50 doesn't mean you don't have to look for work, you will still have to contact ( I think it's 10 or 20 employers a fortnight ) 

Your superannuation is taken into consideration, however .. in your case I doubt this will affect your benefit, however if you have money in the bank ... they will expect you to survive on that first.

good luck,  but I would think carefully before contemplating such a move.  Is going from hot to hell worth it ??

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10 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

He will only have an advantage if you give him one which means doing the best you can for your child - putting him in a Thai School is not doing the best you can. 

 

 

Not all Thai schools are rubbish. If you were involved in education here, you would know that. Plenty of their graduates go on to study and / or work overseas. Even though they study in Thai language, they can do well in SAT's - not too hard given the SAT maths is only up to 10th grade level in Thai schools. Most of what I teach in maths in my school is more advanced than 10th grade in a western school. many of these The famous Thai schools are very difficult to get into though. Thus there is a great disparity in the quality of schools (their students, actually) nationwide. 

 

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Surely you would be better off staying here....
 
I would not move back to the nanny state... (AUS)

It will be incredibly expensive. Everything adds up there. Bills are out of control there. 
 



Agree 100%.

Here’s some current cost of living comparisons between Sydney & an Isaan city:

Sydney (AU) Vs Isaan (TH):

Apartment rent per month:
AU 45,000baht (unfurnished)
TH 4,000b (furnished w/- AC & WiFi)

Electricity (per KWh)
AU: 10b
TH: 4b

Whiskey (700ml bottle):
AU: 900b
TH: 340b

Local food (per meal at restaurant)
Aus 300-400b
TH 75-90b

2hr oil massage
AU 3,000b
TH 500b

Gym & pool:
AU 6,500b per month
TH 650b (includes towel & WiFi)

Cinema:
AU 500b
TH 200b

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