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MikeandDow

Win 10 1903 upgrade

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anybody upgraded yet    just upgrade main pc  boy oh boy very easy quick and stable well done Microsoft best yet

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I upgraded a couple of weeks ago through the insider program and everything seems to be OK, no major problems anyway. It could just have been me, but it won't harm to go into Device Manager and try to update your graphic drivers. Both mine updated, but that could just have been me being lazy and not checking. This happened on my notebook but not on my PC.

 

One other change I found that stands out is the layout of the 'Download' system folder in the 'List' view. On my computer anyway they now have alphabetic columns which I can't get rid of as I don't like them. Seems to be the only folder affected and yes, granted I might have hit a wrong button or something. If anyone knows how to get rid of these it would be a big appreciation. I do try to keep this folder empty(ish) and it is mapped off C to my E drive, but that shouldn't matter as the rest of the standard system folders are also mapped to E and don't show this format. Snap below:

 

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Posted (edited)

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this is mine  no problems    i would be looking in the view sections 

 

the update official came out on the 21st     afraid like to wait have had problems in the past with insider downloads

 

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1 hour ago, chrisinth said:

I upgraded a couple of weeks ago through the insider program and everything seems to be OK, no major problems anyway. It could just have been me, but it won't harm to go into Device Manager and try to update your graphic drivers. Both mine updated, but that could just have been me being lazy and not checking. This happened on my notebook but not on my PC.

 

One other change I found that stands out is the layout of the 'Download' system folder in the 'List' view. On my computer anyway they now have alphabetic columns which I can't get rid of as I don't like them. Seems to be the only folder affected and yes, granted I might have hit a wrong button or something. If anyone knows how to get rid of these it would be a big appreciation. I do try to keep this folder empty(ish) and it is mapped off C to my E drive, but that shouldn't matter as the rest of the standard system folders are also mapped to E and don't show this format. Snap below:

 

1762038505_downloadfolder.jpg.97fc81f783c258056a8831f6ceee4d78.jpg

 

... yes, klick the 'View' tab top left corner in file explorer, then open 'Group by' dropdown menu and choose (None) ... 

 

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23 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

image.png.1317ccaab0dbfd23ec1042d3b69d4a9a.png

 

this is mine  no problems    i would be looking in the view sections 

 

the update official came out on the 21st     afraid like to wait have had problems in the past with insider downloads

 

Yes, agree that the best policy is to wait for all the bugs to get sorted out and to avoid the insider program unless you are going to contribute with the testing.

 

Unfortunately I am looking after 60+ PCs  and notebooks which are all running on W10 and need to get a preview on working machines in the operating areas in case there is something major wrong that could upset the running of the company. I would rather having a failure on one of my computers than in accounts or with one of the techs onsite doing commissioning or even maintenance.

 

Rock and a hard place.....................:wink:

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7 minutes ago, jollyhangmon said:

 

... yes, klick the 'View' tab top left corner in file explorer, then open 'Group by' dropdown menu and choose (None) ... 

 

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Cheers jollyhangmon, worked a treat. I normally have the ribbon hidden and couldn't see the 'Group by' drop-down.

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I tried it. Neither of my video cards worked properly with it in spite of having the most recent drivers. So I rolled back immediately (roll back worked fine).

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1 minute ago, KittenKong said:

I tried it. Neither of my video cards worked properly with it in spite of having the most recent drivers. So I rolled back immediately (roll back worked fine).

 

 

That's likely because Windows installed it's own Drivers instead of your proprietary Drivers. So try un-installing whatever they installed and install your own.

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4 hours ago, JamJar said:

That's likely because Windows installed it's own Drivers instead of your proprietary Drivers. So try un-installing whatever they installed and install your own.

No, I did put the proper drivers in myself so it wasnt that. It was easier to roll back than to look any further into it. I will wait until the manufacturers put out newer drivers as I cant be the only person with the problem.

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One of the problems MS had with this upgrade (1903) and the main reason they deferred it, was that the system couldn't remember the drive letters or that it would intermittently change them. This obviously becomes a problem when for example, someone is backing up to an external and the information given to the software doesn't match with the destination drive.

 

I haven't seen this happen but it is worth checking to see if you are affected. That said, they could have fixed this as there have been quite a few updates released since installing and they are starting the roll-out once again. 

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3 minutes ago, chrisinth said:

One of the problems MS had with this upgrade (1903) and the main reason they deferred it, was that the system couldn't remember the drive letters or that it would intermittently change them. This obviously becomes a problem when for example, someone is backing up to an external and the information given to the software doesn't match with the destination drive.

 

I haven't seen this happen but it is worth checking to see if you are affected. That said, they could have fixed this as there have been quite a few updates released since installing and they are starting the roll-out once again. 

I did read somewhere that you should disconnect all USB drives before doing the update.

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8 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

I did read somewhere that you should disconnect all USB drives before doing the update.

Yep, certainly wouldn't hinder the process; IMO this should be standard practice for all upgrades or clean installs.

 

As I understand it, and I could be wrong here, the problem was occurring after booting in that the system wasn't retaining the drive letter sequence.  

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Below MS webpage lists known issues/bugs with the just released to public 1903.  I'll give MS another month to fix more of the bugs.  With these major semi-annual upgrades I prefer to wait for approx one month before upgrading.  Since I use Win 10 Pro I can easily delay Feature Update (i.e., major upgrades) for up to 45 days.....right now I have it set to 30 days.

 

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-1903#426msgdesc

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... here 2 ways to delay updates on HOME version too:

 

<> apparently this update requires 32GB free space as opposed to the 20 required so far - now, I have a tablet that runs on WIN10, onboard only 64GB, right now just 24 free, so far nothing doing, no message re ´lack of space for update´, let's see ...

 

<> if you only connect via wifi then you could set your allowed data-limit very low, like couple MB, and you will be asked before download of updates if you wish to proceed (also goes for the rather tiny definition updates for Defender for example) ... careful, you set the date for your limit but it would reset monthly if you don't set it ´indefinitely´! 

 

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15 minutes ago, jollyhangmon said:

this update requires 32GB

Wow  talk about "bloatware" that's huge !!!!

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