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BANGKOK 21 June 2019 04:54
brewsterbudgen

New TM30 requirement at Chaengwattana

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Can anyone confirm that Chaengwattana now require the owner to be present when submitting a TM30 report, or the foreigner must have Power of Attorney?

 

Reports on Facebook say people doing 90day reports and Extensions were turned away if they didn't have a TM30 receipt and were not allowed to submit one if they didn't have the owner/landlord with them, or Power of Attorney.

 

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1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Reports on Facebook say people doing 90day reports and Extensions were turned away if they didn't have a TM30 receipt and were not allowed to submit one if they didn't have the owner/landlord with them, or Power of Attorney.

 

I read that short thread. Seems a bit alarming, although the intention of the TM30 process is to have responsible Thai parties reporting foreigners, and having foreigners self-report is, well, self-defeating if "national security" is the real reason for this check/balance on foreigners? So requiring landlords to report in person, or using the online system, or give a PoA doesn't seem too crazy.

 

Waiting for some other feedback, from folks who did extensions today.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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When I move ( 3 times in 6 years ) I ALWAYS file a TM-30 PERSONALLY

 

Here is how I do it in "a package".

Color copy of photo Passport page

Copy of Entry Stamp

Copy of TM-6 Departure Card

Copy of Entry Permit - if any

Copy of TM-28 for SOME IO'es, MY IO uses a TM-47 90 Day Report instead

Copy of Extension of Stay ( "" Retirement Visa"" or "" Marriage Visa"" <= so called but no such thing )

Copy of Lease / Rental Agreement

Copy of Utility Deposits - IMPORTANT - make your deposits early and start service on the day you move...see next line

 

Sign the TM-30 as "POSSESSOR", strike out the other titles.

 

Get the RECEIPT and keep in Passport

 

I have never been refused, do within 24 hours of moving. I move after 18:00 on Friday, so I have extra time. This information was given to by a IO friend .... Its over kill but keeps me safe

 

You can also do if your landlord ( it IS their responsibility to file ) does not / will not file. If filed after 24 ( IO open hours ) you could face a fine, usually from 0 to 800THB, but as much as 1600THB.

 

Many people do NOT realize it is YOU that IS responsible to keep YOUR PAPERWORK up to date, don't get a ding on you immigration file!

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Waiting for some other feedback, from folks who did extensions today.

 

I was at CW yesterday for my extension, and yes they did require the TM30. Since my wife is my landlord and we had the house book with us, we were able to complete both the TM30 and extension. Another farang I met there, couldn't do his extension because he didn't have the TM30 and couldn't do the TM30 because he didn't have the required documents from his landlord.

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Welcome to the real world, this house owners receipt has been a requirement, stapled into your passport, for the last 3 years at least at Loei Immigration also if you leave the country the old one becomes invalid and a new one is required

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1 hour ago, edwardflory said:

Copy of Utility Deposits - IMPORTANT - make your deposits early and start service on the day you move...see next line

 

How do you manage to get this done within 24 hours if you just moved in?  I believe you, just don't know now you did it.

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As an update to my original post, it now looks like the Facebook post I referred to may have been overly dramatic. It now seems Chaengwattana will accept TM30 applications without the owner or landlord being present and there is no requirement for a Power of Attorney. It seems very hit or miss, as some people seem to get away without even being asked for a TM30!

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22 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

As an update to my original post, it now looks like the Facebook post I referred to may have been overly dramatic.

 

Yes, it did strike me as quite outside the norm of the recent practices, and I was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt until hearing from some folks I know who did extensions yesterday and today.

 

1 hour ago, edwardflory said:

Many people do NOT realize it is YOU that IS responsible to keep YOUR PAPERWORK up to date, don't get a ding on you immigration file!

 

Obviously, but in the case of the TM30 it is really meant to be the responsibility of the hotel/guest house owner (since 1979) and landlords (in the last ~ two years).

 

Having foreigners self-report, after having them report via a TM-6, TM-7, TM-8, TM-47 et al, kind of defeats the purpose, or intent of the requirement?

 

 

 

 

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I did my 90 day yesterday at CW and they did not require TM30 of me

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4 hours ago, AAArdvark said:

How do you manage to get this done within 24 hours if you just moved in?  I believe you, just don't know now you did it.

I make a deposit on utilities and set installation date ( utilities start/install date .. day/month ) as far in advance as possible, 15 to 30 days usually.  Once a company called me to install the next day, I told them to look at the install date, whoops!

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5 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

 

TM30_brochure.jpeg

 

 

Not exactly the kind of Thai language notice you'd want to aim at expat condo owners, home or apartment renters, etc etc...  But that sure hasn't stopped Immigration from fining and declining extensions and reports to expats without the TM30 receipt.

 

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