Urgent : Court to consider shares case against Thanathorn, suspends him from office

[HeyHeyHey]

1 hour ago, rebo said:

How long will it take to get the people onto the streets ...?

 

They think Twitter hashtags will save them. Enough tweets and the army will surrender. Easy.

[newatthis]

2 hours ago, madmitch said:

Yet Prawit was allowed to continue in his roles during his watch investigation by the NACC. I suppose it wasn't the Courts but even so, i is so obvious that it's one rule for the military, one rule for their opponents.

And the FM Don was allowed to stay on while the Court considered the share case which took over a year for the EC to bring to Court. 

Different strokes for different blokes? 

[webfact]

Thanathorn suffers setback in court

By THE NATION

 

 

FUTURE FORWARD LEADER SUSPENDED FROM SERVING AS MP AS CHARTER COURT AGREES |TO HEAR EC’S CASE FOR DISQUALIFICATION 

 

THE CONSTITUTIONAL Court |yesterday agreed to hear the Election Commission (EC)’s plea to disqualify Future Forward leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit from the House of Representatives over his alleged shareholding in media company V-Luck.

 

The judges voted 9-0 to hear the case, and suspended the anti-junta politician from serving as an MP, a day before Parliament opens after the March 24 election. 

 

Thanathorn has 15 days after receiving the court notice to provide his defence against the allegation.

 

The EC took the case to charter court, seeking rulings on whether Thanathorn’s membership in the House of Representatives should be terminated and whether he should be suspended from office in the meantime.

 

The EC petition claimed that Thanathorn held shares in V-Luck, which publishes celebrity magazine Who?, even after he had applied to contest in the general election.

 

Thanathorn and Future Forward Party had claimed that more than 900,000 shares had been transferred |to his mother, Somporn Juangroongruangkit, in January, a month before the MP candidate registration opened.

 

The share transfer document also showed the transaction was completed on January 8 but the controversy arose as the business development department recognised the shareholder change only on March 21 – three days before the election. This raised the question if Thanathorn was a shareholder of the media company even after becoming an MP candidate. 

 

MP candidates are prohibited from holding shares in media companies under the Constitution. If found violating the law, the MP’s membership in the lower house should be terminated, the supreme law states.

 

Once the case was accepted by the Constitutional Court, it also had the jurisdiction to suspend the accused MP from work until a ruling was made.

 

As a result of the suspension, Thanathorn cannot enter Parliament and will miss the opportunity to vote for the head and the deputies of the House of Representatives as well as the prime minister despite his success in the election.

 

Critics see the possibility of Thanathorn being disqualified, as a first step to disband the highly popular Future Forward Party and weaken the anti-junta bloc. If the court rules that Thanathorn was not qualified to stand as an MP candidate, the party could also be charged with approving an unqualified candidate, paving the way for its dissolution.

 

Thanathorn yesterday held a press conference, saying Future Forward’s fight against the current regime continued despite the current development against them.

 

Though his MP status was hanging by a thread, the anti-junta politician said his PM candidacy remained. He was ready to be the PM and lead the coalition.

 

“This is not the time to lose hope. It’s the time to stand against [injustice],” Thanathorn said. “Future Forward MPs remain hopeful. I urge everyone to be hopeful, too.”

 

The suspension may bar him from Parliament, but Thanathorn said he would continue to work as the people’s representative even outside Parliament.

 

While disagreeing with the court’s decision, Thanathorn questioned if the process initiated by the EC had been lawful. 

 

He said the EC agreed to take the case to the court even before a subcommittee had completed its investigation. The committee was trying to summon concerned individuals to provide information about the case even after the case had been sent to the Constitutional Court.

 

The anti-junta politician also called out the EC for rushing to pursue legal action against him. In comparison, in a similar case against Foreign Minister Don Pramudwinai, the poll authority took more than 400 days to approach the court, he said.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30369910

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2019-05-24

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[Reigntax]

9 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do you know the legal details?

You know, some time ago there was this guy who didn't declare his shares. And the judges let him get away with it. And he called it a honest mistake. The rest is history. I wonder how many of those judges had second thoughts about their decision.

 

Thanathorn is popular but that does not mean he is innocent. If he is guilty then he should be punished according to the laws. And obviously all the other politicians should be judged by the same standards.

Agree. Prayuth and his generals should be charged with treason and be spending the rest of their limited years behind bars.

 

Instead, the worst criminals of the country are the accusers, are untouchable and as spineless as Prayuth.

[Eligius]

7 hours ago, HeyHeyHey said:

They think Twitter hashtags will save them. Enough tweets and the army will surrender. Easy.

Yes. They are sadly deluded if they think that (as you say above).

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Reigntax said:

Agree. Prayuth and his generals should be charged with treason and be spending the rest of their limited years behind bars.

 

Instead, the worst criminals of the country are the accusers, are untouchable and as spineless as Prayuth.

Prayut removed Thaksin and his little incompetent sister. That was very good news.

He didn't do everything correct after this. But lets not forget: If Thaksin and his little sister would have worked for all Thais and Thailand then there would not have been any coups in the last 20 years. The power hungry and greedy Thaksin was and is the huge problem. Prayut is just a consequence of that.

[perthuniversity]

13 hours ago, Thailand said:

The cue for dems and BJP to confirm they are the junta's bitches.

totally agree

 

[candide]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Prayut removed Thaksin and his little incompetent sister. That was very good news.

He didn't do everything correct after this. But lets not forget: If Thaksin and his little sister would have worked for all Thais and Thailand then there would not have been any coups in the last 20 years. The power hungry and greedy Thaksin was and is the huge problem. Prayut is just a consequence of that.

Nice fairy tale. Many coups also happened before Thaksin, so why then? Rehearsing because they knew Thaksin will come one day?

Thaksin and his proxies were eliminated because Thaksin was threatening the dominance of the establishment. He wanted to replace the dominant network by his own network and they could not allow it. Had Thaksin integrated the dominant network they would have gladly accepted him.

Any other person or party threatening the established network would have been eliminated.

What will happen to Thanathorns confirms that they will eliminate anyone threatening their domination, whatever his sins are.

[Lupatria]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone already spoke the famous line:

"...make it look like an accident."

[OneMoreFarang]

21 minutes ago, candide said:

Nice fairy tale. Many coups also happened before Thaksin, so why then? Rehearsing because they knew Thaksin will come one day?

Thaksin and his proxies were eliminated because Thaksin was threatening the dominance of the establishment. He wanted to replace the dominant network by his own network and they could not allow it. Had Thaksin integrated the dominant network they would have gladly accepted him.

Any other person or party threatening the established network would have been eliminated.

What will happen to Thanathorns confirms that they will eliminate anyone threatening their domination, whatever his sins are.

I am in Thailand only since 20 years and I was here when the coups happened. They didn't just happen when nobody expected them. If Thaksin would have been just corrupt like anybody else then probably nothing would have happened. But Thaksin was super corrupt and he did it in the face of everybody. He just did this too much and few people were surprised when the coup happened.

His little sister had the chance to work for Thailand or for her criminal brother. She decided her brother was more important. The end of her government began with the 4am whitewash attempt. From that day on her end was near.

 

Imagine for a minute what Thaksin could have done when he came to power. He claimed he was already rich and he does not need more money and he would work for the people (and not his own pocket). If he would have worked for the people, and only for the people and not his own greed, he would probably still be in power. And at least 90% of the people would love him. But that's not the case. Some people still support him because some time ago he did something good for them. But about the same amount of people hate him because he was so super corrupt in your face. It's not only the elite who hates him. Or does Thailand have 30% "elite"?

 

Thailand needs honest politicians. And it needs smart voters who look at facts and don't believe fantasy stories. If a politician gives them money they should ask themselves where that money comes from and why he can afford to do that. And then it shouldn't take long to realize that politicians who hand out money are bad politicians.

 

Thaksin is not the only evil but a very big one. If he is removed that is a good step in the right direction. It's only a beginning but it's a lot better than a repeat with another Thaksin minion and another whitewashing.

 

[Emdog]

Not as crazy as when that PM was turfed out for having a cooking show on the tube. But close.

[Jimbo2014]

All part of these free and fair elections conducted with transparency, honesty and expediency ????????????

[newnative]

13 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do you know the legal details?

You know, some time ago there was this guy who didn't declare his shares. And the judges let him get away with it. And he called it a honest mistake. The rest is history. I wonder how many of those judges had second thoughts about their decision.

 

Thanathorn is popular but that does not mean he is innocent. If he is guilty then he should be punished according to the laws. And obviously all the other politicians should be judged by the same standards.

And, obviously, the huge problem, and the gross unfairness, lies in your last sentence.

[hotchilli]

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Court also ordered that the anti-junta politician be suspended from office until the case is settled. That order will prevent Thanathorn from entering Parliament on Thursday.

As I thought... guilty until proven even more guilty !!!!

The Junta fix is working well, is their any office that they don't control?

[Srikcir]

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Court also ordered that the anti-junta politician be suspended from office until the case is settled. (my bold emphasis)

Read again and carefully.

While the court prevents Thanathorn from entering the Parliament to take his MP seat, it recognizes that he does currently HOLD the seat. The seat didn't become vacant!

Until the court agrees that Thanathorn must vacate his seat, he is not banned from politics. Furthermore, if he loses his seat, would his party still retain it or would it go into an election redo?)

This is a partial (albeit temporary) win for Thanathorn.

[Quack]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I am in Thailand only since 20 years and I was here when the coups happened. They didn't just happen when nobody expected them. If Thaksin would have been just corrupt like anybody else then probably nothing would have happened. But Thaksin was super corrupt and he did it in the face of everybody. He just did this too much and few people were surprised when the coup happened.

His little sister had the chance to work for Thailand or for her criminal brother. She decided her brother was more important. The end of her government began with the 4am whitewash attempt. From that day on her end was near.

 

Imagine for a minute what Thaksin could have done when he came to power. He claimed he was already rich and he does not need more money and he would work for the people (and not his own pocket). If he would have worked for the people, and only for the people and not his own greed, he would probably still be in power. And at least 90% of the people would love him. But that's not the case. Some people still support him because some time ago he did something good for them. But about the same amount of people hate him because he was so super corrupt in your face. It's not only the elite who hates him. Or does Thailand have 30% "elite"?

 

Thailand needs honest politicians. And it needs smart voters who look at facts and don't believe fantasy stories. If a politician gives them money they should ask themselves where that money comes from and why he can afford to do that. And then it shouldn't take long to realize that politicians who hand out money are bad politicians.

 

Thaksin is not the only evil but a very big one. If he is removed that is a good step in the right direction. It's only a beginning but it's a lot better than a repeat with another Thaksin minion and another whitewashing.

 

How naive can you be? Every single politician in the world, not just Thailand, that has ever genuinely "worked for the people" and come close to succeeding, has ended up being assassinated, or overthrown, and/or besmirched with all manner of lies, or failing that targeted with international sanctions that scuttle any progress they might have made. 

[OneMoreFarang]

42 minutes ago, Quack said:

How naive can you be? Every single politician in the world, not just Thailand, that has ever genuinely "worked for the people" and come close to succeeding, has ended up being assassinated, or overthrown, and/or besmirched with all manner of lies, or failing that targeted with international sanctions that scuttle any progress they might have made. 

It seems you studied "every single politician" in this world. My knowledge is not anywhere near your level so I won't even try to argue with you and your expertise.

[Tajasia]

Corrupt courts hence the resistance to reform

[anchadian]

Thanathorn may attend parliament opening and 1st House meeting

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thanathorn-may-attend-parliament-opening-and-1st-house-meeting/

[phil2407]

Is it really that difficult? 

1- when did he transfer the shares?

2- when we're the shares received by the other party?

3- did he do it before registering to become party member? 

If so he's clean if not then he's screwed it's that simple 

and EC - I have feeling that others have been speaking in their ears - look at wife of famous (use that word loosely) that had his wife own xxxx amount of shares but absolutely nada done 

think you've got Junta leader for see able future but then he'll be legit PM after the Senate - hand picked by guess who ??? And lower house as true and fair election lmfao 

[DrTuner]

11 minutes ago, phil2407 said:

Is it really that difficult? 

Well you have to put up a dog & pony show for the farang countries, although none with IQ in the positive numbers will believe any of the junta BS. They'll get him DQ'd, just rip some fairytale out of their <deleted> if they can't find anything more convincing. 

[Baerboxer]

21 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

<deleted> disgrace.

His only mistake, was being popular.

 

His only mistake seems to have been not getting the minions to check every minute detail to make sure he's squeaky clean!

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, Quack said:

How naive can you be? Every single politician in the world, not just Thailand, that has ever genuinely "worked for the people" and come close to succeeding, has ended up being assassinated, or overthrown, and/or besmirched with all manner of lies, or failing that targeted with international sanctions that scuttle any progress they might have made. 

 

You must have done a massive amount of research on a huge number of politicians to make such a bold assertion. Care to share it?

 

Or is it just some bs to try and make out Thaksin isn't a corrupt crook?

[sjaak327]

What a surprise…. Blatant disregard of a democratically elected mp. And this due to rules drafted by criminals, that abolished the constitution, disgraceful nonsense, 

[Baerboxer]

7 hours ago, candide said:

Nice fairy tale. Many coups also happened before Thaksin, so why then? Rehearsing because they knew Thaksin will come one day?

Thaksin and his proxies were eliminated because Thaksin was threatening the dominance of the establishment. He wanted to replace the dominant network by his own network and they could not allow it. Had Thaksin integrated the dominant network they would have gladly accepted him.

Any other person or party threatening the established network would have been eliminated.

What will happen to Thanathorns confirms that they will eliminate anyone threatening their domination, whatever his sins are.

 

You cannot believe every coup was for the same reason? Thaksin was becoming more and more corrupt, power hungry and egotistical. Much to openly flaunting in their faces too - he really did seem to believe he was untouchable. The establishment are far from stupid. The recognized what he was up to with his getting close with Hun Sen and the Lees. 

You're right that he wanted to replace their establishment with his own - and make Thailand the Shins personal fiefdom just has his mate has done in Cambodia. He left himself wide open though and got caught because he thought he was above the law or could always bribe his way out. Then his puppets all fell foul of one thing or another. Yingluck, his dubious and clumsy whitewash attempt and their get even richer even quicker aspirations with that 2.2 trillion loan were enough to cause their downfall.

 

Maybe if politicians weren't from billionaire wealthy clans things might be different.

[Baerboxer]

5 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

What a surprise…. Blatant disregard of a democratically elected mp. And this due to rules drafted by criminals, that abolished the constitution, disgraceful nonsense, 

 

Whatever the rules are, each MP and Party have to know them and follow them. Simple. 

 

Especially in an environment known for selectively enforcing laws or turning blind eyes when it suits.

[sjaak327]

2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Whatever the rules are, each MP and Party have to know them and follow them. Simple. 

 

Especially in an environment known for selectively enforcing laws or turning blind eyes when it suits.

Apparently he did follow the rules, but your remark about selective enforcement says it all, either everyone gets shafted, or no-one. The junta is making a big mistake, and it will backfire. They well and truly are dumb people, they will never learn. 

[GarryP]

5 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

Apparently he did follow the rules, but your remark about selective enforcement says it all, either everyone gets shafted, or no-one. The junta is making a big mistake, and it will backfire. They well and truly are dumb people, they will never learn. 

I hope that is true. 

[Lacessit]

20 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Thanathorn is popular but that does not mean he is innocent. If he is guilty then he should be punished according to the laws. And obviously all the other politicians should be judged by the same standards.

i won't hold my breath waiting for Prayut to be in the dock.

[phil2407]

difficult? 

1- when did he transfer the shares?

2- when we're the shares received by the other party?

3- did he do it before registering to become party member? 

If so he's clean no problem if not then he's screwed it's that simple 

and EC - I have feeling that others have been speaking in their ears - look at wife of famous minister( use that word loosely) that had his wife own xxxx amount of shares but absolutely nada done - doesn't effect his job although illegal but yeah ok 

think you've got Junta leader for seeable future but then he'll be legit PM after the Senate - hand picked by guess who ??? And lower house as true and fair election lmfao