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A2K63

I want to live in Thailand but

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Hi my first post here. I want to come and live in Thailand but I don't have a job lined up. I have enough savings to last for a long time but I will need to work both for personal satisfaction and financial reasons. I'm realistic though and enough income just live comfortably will be enough. So my question is can/should I just move to Bangkok and settle in then try and find work?

I've been working in large corporate IT Depts in Australia for 25 years but I understand it will be near to impossible to find work in my field. Is that true? Is there a better chance if I'm actually ''on the ground"?

Another option is to buy or start a small business but I also understand that there are many pitfalls and plenty of expats fail at this. Any thoughts on that?

Another option would be to earn money online. From my research though most of that style of work doesn't interest me plus the hourly rate is often very low. Any thoughts on that?

Any other options to earn as an expat while living in Thailand?

So any input would be greatly appreciated. Any examples of expats working successfully in Thailand?

 

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4 minutes ago, yokat said:

I am an IT engineer fresh out of a master from europe and I found a software engineering job in Bangkok after a month of looking and applying to 5~10 ads a day. With your background (supposing you are some kind of an expert/engineer) it should not take too long and you could expect more than 100,000baht/month (much more depending on the position and the company).

Starting a company takes 2,000,000 baht and you can't own it at more than 49% unless you jump through some hoops and get BOI approved.

Earning money online doesn't give you a business visa or work permit. If you are confident in your consulting/independent skills you could also try looking into IGLU.

Thanks that gives me some hope. My preference would be to continue to work in IT. Can I ask where you're finding the job ads? And are you required to speak Thai?

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1 hour ago, A2K63 said:

Any other options to earn as an expat while living in Thailand?

There is a list that tells you what sort of jobs you can do in Thailand. I assume you can find it on line. You also need to research getting a work permit and the correct visa.

 

How long have you stayed in Thailand before? It can take years ( if ever ) to understand how Thailand works.

 

1 hour ago, A2K63 said:

Another option is to buy or start a small business but I also understand that there are many pitfalls and plenty of expats fail at this.

I'd say most fail, though don't ask me for figures. To succeed, one needs to be lucky enough to know/ marry the right people.

 

11 minutes ago, A2K63 said:

are you required to speak Thai?

Not unless you want to become more than a visitor, BUT, if you can't speak fluent Thai and you want to work in Thailand, you'd have to be incredibly lucky to succeed, IMO.

 

1 hour ago, A2K63 said:

I've been working in large corporate IT Depts in Australia for 25 years

I'm assuming that makes you in the mid 40s, so a while before you can live in LOS without working, or getting married.

Many, like me visit every year while working and saving, so we can live in LOS after 55 without the hassle of work permits, tax etc. It's possible to live very cheaply unless one wants to live a western lifestyle or gets married. You should be easily able to save enough in 10 years to do so.

 

1 hour ago, A2K63 said:

So any input would be greatly appreciated. Any examples of expats working successfully in Thailand?

Many expats live and work in LOS, some more successfully than others. This forum is as good a place to contact them as any. Don't forget that there are other subforums on TVF to peruse.

I strongly suggest the marriage and divorce sub forum, emphasis on divorce to give you an idea of what awaits if you meet the "girl of your dreams". "Tis a well trodden path for farangs, leading to bankruptcy, horror, and in some cases death, for many. Of course there are those that that are lucky enough to catch a uni educated, DDG Chinese Thai with mega rich parents that support the farang, or so they claim on the forum. They only cost the farang a million or so baht to buy them from the parents.

 

Are you sure you want to live in Bangkok? To some it's a wonderful place to live in, but to others of us, it's a hell hole. However, the girls in Bangkok are certainly in the better class of totty, if that's what floats your boat.

Watch out for those girls in Nana Plaza ( some of them ain't girls, if you know what I mean ) and even the real ones will strip your wallet before you even realise what happened.

 

Anyway, good luck. Don't forget to get started on the Thai language lessons.

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14 minutes ago, Captain 776 said:

Big difference between software engineer and IT guy.

 

A good IT guy here prob gets 25,000 BHAT a month.......if that.

exactly...and an engineer doesnt like to be called an IT Guy.  Met an Austrian guy with loads of telecom experience...40k per month here, and on call 24/7.  Zero money in hardware, here, even App development is 200 thb per hour..they like them young and fresh out of school.

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Thanks everyone for the replies, it's all food for thought. To answer some of your questions:

 

I've holidayed in Thailand maybe half a dozen times for a total of maybe 2 months.

 

Re speaking Thai. Since I won't be heading over for a month or two I may as well start learning now at home. Maybe I'll find a Thai person who lives nearby and line up regular lessons.

 

I'm 56 years old. So I understand that gives me an extra option re Visa. In the short term I'd probably arrive on a 30 non visa then renew once or twice for a total of 90 days. Then assuming I really want to stay and make a life I'll apply for the ''oldies'' visa.

 

Re romance. Yeah I've heard and read plenty of horror stories. In an ideal world I'd meet a Thai woman who works in a corporate job or similar. Will be staying away from bar girls.

 

I plan on starting in Bangkok but it's not somewhere I wanna live long term. Ultimately I'd like to live in Hua Hin or similar. On the beach, clean, i.e. not Pattaya, but still closeish to Bangkok airports.

 

I wouldn't call myself an IT guy. My most recent contract I was a service manager. Working for Rio Tinto and looking after a lot of IBM and Accenture staff working out of India, Philippines and Poland. It was very well paid so not a junior position. I don't have any interest in help desk or desktop support or shift work. I accept it's pretty unlikely I'll find work in my chosen career but at least once I'm living in Bangkok I can approach any multinationals with offices there and see what if anything is available or possible.

In the meantime I'll keep researching opportunities to earn money online.

 

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My understanding is that if a Thai can do it, you can't do it. So unless you have a unique skill, you're going to have a hard time. Sorry, I don't want to be discouraging, but it is reality. 

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How is your grammer ? You can get a job teaching English if you pass a tefl course . Pays not bad considering the cost of living .

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after 10 years living in Thailand I decided it is a better country for holidays. each to their own of course. owning a business is very very difficult and I did it for 9 years. enough about that already.

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2 minutes ago, guest879 said:

after 10 years living in Thailand I decided it is a better country for holidays. each to their own of course. owning a business is very very difficult and I did it for 9 years. enough about that already.

Have you chosen another country to live in and if so why? Genuine question.

 

FYI I'm not 100% settled on Thailand. Another option is the Philippines. Pros and Cons to both I think but what's swaying me towards Thailand is culture, food, religion. On the other hand in the Philippines language is less of an issue and I think the visa situation is easier. 

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1 hour ago, Scutty said:

How is your grammer ? You can get a job teaching English if you pass a tefl course . Pays not bad considering the cost of living .

Yes my grammar is pretty good I think. And yeah that's an option. I understand the pay isn't great but I don't need to earn a lot, just enough to live comfortably considering I have a lot of savings.

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So I've been reading some of the threads in the Marriage and divorce sub forum. I'm having second thoughts now lol

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