Scorpion364 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I'm a teacher in Bangkok, and due to start a new job in August. However, now comes all the fun and games of applying for a new visa. To add to my exasperation, it would appear that everyone who works in HR at my new school simply does not have a clue. I've asked question after question of them, gone around in circles, had questions unanswered, some questions answered incorrectly, and been told I have to do things that I actually do not have to do. Please could someone therefore confirm or otherwise the following: 1. I can get a Non-B visa either in the Thai embassy in another country, or at Chaeng Wattana. 2. If I go to Chaeng Wattana, I need to get my degree certificate certified. 3a. I would also need my degree transcript certifying. 4. If I were to go abroad, I would not need my degree certificate or transcript certifying. 4a. I would only need to take my passport, the papers my school provides for me (application form), and I assume the fee required for the visa, and probably some photos... 5. This is all that is required to get a Non-B visa. Yay or nay? (Your assistance is greatly appreciated.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I suspect the people who are qualified to answer your questions (which is not me) will need to know what kind of school has offered you the job. Public, private, language school or university? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion364 Posted May 24, 2019 Author Share Posted May 24, 2019 Unfortunately not the HR staff at my new school! It is an International school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Scorpion364 said: Unfortunately not the HR staff at my new school! It is an International school There surely must be other teachers at the school who have been through the process. Perhaps, you should try to talk to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Save yourself a lot of angst and running around. Employ an agent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allane Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 What sort of Visa, or Extension of Stay, are you on now ? Are your current and new employer located in the same province ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 11 hours ago, Lacessit said: Save yourself a lot of angst and running around. Employ an agent. An agent is completely inappropriate in these circumstances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Who Sold the World Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Scorpion - I cannot answer your specific questions. Probably, the only folk who can are the IO's at Chaeng Wattana. In this case the old adage applies "If you want something done right, do it yourself". In your shoes, I would gather all the paperwork I have and visit Chaeng Wattana and ask them exactly what is required to remain legit. Really the only way you will get specific answers to your question. As far as your new schools HR - well, either they do not know or are lazy, either way, it doesn't appear that they are a useful resource. So Be It. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Briggsy said: An agent is completely inappropriate in these circumstances. You have some basis for saying that? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Plenty of agents willing to help , just a question of how much you're willing to pay for their services. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Lacessit said: You have some basis for saying that? Why? Have you ever possessed a work permit in Thailand? Have you ever obtained an extension based on that work permit? I have with multiple employers. The co-operation of the employer is absolutely essential. Your glib comment recommending an "agent" is completely inappropriate to this situation. It may help with a retirement extension but not with this case. You are projecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Briggsy said: Have you ever possessed a work permit in Thailand? Have you ever obtained an extension based on that work permit? I have with multiple employers. The co-operation of the employer is absolutely essential. Your glib comment recommending an "agent" is completely inappropriate to this situation. It may help with a retirement extension but not with this case. You are projecting. Answer is no. I'm retired. Forgive me for thinking the cooperation of an employer for a work permit is a statement of the blindingly obvious. I was thinking more of getting the paperwork correct for Immigration, which agents do. Would it make you happier to flay me, or boil me in oil? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, Lacessit said: Answer is no. I'm retired. Forgive me for thinking the cooperation of an employer for a work permit is a statement of the blindingly obvious. I was thinking more of getting the paperwork correct for Immigration, which agents do. Would it make you happier to flay me, or boil me in oil? Thank you for your honest reply. Medieval torture is not necessary. In this case, we are talking about an international school. They will have a member of staff who liaises with the Ministry of Labour, the Ministry of Education and with Immigration. The Ministry of Labour is the key one. Once the Work Permit has been obtained, the extension of permission to stay is not as difficult. The introduction of an agent to the process would be an expensive and troublesome step. All the documentation, and there is a huge stack of copies, has to come from the school. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion364 Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 I'm currently on a Non-B visa as I already work as a teacher in Bangkok. I am moving to an international school, also in Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Briggsy said: In this case, we are talking about an international school. They will have a member of staff who liaises with the Ministry of Labour, the Ministry of Education and with Immigration. The Ministry of Labour is the key one. Once the Work Permit has been obtained, the extension of permission to stay is not as difficult. The introduction of an agent to the process would be an expensive and troublesome step. All the documentation, and there is a huge stack of copies, has to come from the school. I have to sign 8 pages of copies just for a 90 day report. I don't think I can get my head around the documentation you are talking about, or want to. What the hell do Thai government departments do with all their paper? Mulch it and use it to feed pigs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allane Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 With full co-operation from both schools, you can make the change at Chaeng Wattana. I once did it, and had everything done in half a day. Your old school needs to hold your Work Permit open until the new school has all the required paperwork submitted. Once the new school has applied for your Work Permit, they will be given a form showing that the application has been received. (W.P. 3, I believe.) You can then cancel your old W.P. Save the receipt which you are given for it (Form Taw Daw 10). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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