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Having some success with growing mangoes from seed; but slow. There is one tree, about 8 years old that has the most delicious fruit.

 

I want to take cuttings and splice onto a suitable root-stock. Now where to get the appropriate root-stock for mangoes?

 

Mrs Owl has asked at a few garden centres and got no-where. Either they say they don't know what she is talking about, or, they do not know the answer to the simple question.

 

I am south of Nong Khai, near Phen. I can go virtually anwhere; Sakon Nakon, Udon or Nong Khai; Loei even.

 

Anyone?

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1 hour ago, grollies said:

If you have mango trees growing from seed you already have rootstock. Now graft onto these trees with scions from the variety you want. I think.....

Old Grollies here has hit the nail on the head. Heed his advice. 

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10 hours ago, grollies said:

If you have mango trees growing from seed you already have rootstock. Now graft onto these trees with scions from the variety you want. I think.....

Thanks for that grollies. Yes, I can do as you suggest, but it's the rootstock that I'd like to get hold of. Mrs Owl wants to grow a couple of rows of these 'special' mangoes along the road leading off from the water tower, where they can be easily watered.

 

This area earmarked for planting has only recently become available due to killing off 192 oil palms (a long story).

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10 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Thanks for that grollies. Yes, I can do as you suggest, but it's the rootstock that I'd like to get hold of. Mrs Owl wants to grow a couple of rows of these 'special' mangoes along the road leading off from the water tower, where they can be easily watered.

 

This area earmarked for planting has only recently become available due to killing off 192 oil palms (a long story).

The only other option is to purchase young mango trees, if available, and then splice onto them. And build up from your own stock. Bear in mind there are many varieties of mangoes, a couple of which are naturally sweet.

 

You'll need to google to find out where to go.

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4 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

The only other option is to purchase young mango trees, if available, and then splice onto them. And build up from your own stock. Bear in mind there are many varieties of mangoes, a couple of which are naturally sweet.

 

You'll need to google to find out where to go.

I can get any amount of mango trees. They are everywhere. 

 

Just want to know where I can get suitable rootstock. Google is not Thai friendly at all; in this regard.

 

Want to buy 200.

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2 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

I can get any amount of mango trees. They are everywhere. 

 

Just want to know where I can get suitable rootstock. Google is not Thai friendly at all; in this regard.

 

Want to buy 200.

Any mango rootstock, plus stem, is suitable if you're grafting from your favoured tree, because it will grow the grafted splice - if successful - as the same tree. Just dig up a few young ones and use them. 

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Create rootstock growth using the seeds of a successful mango tree. Water and fertilize the seed until growth occurs. Allow the new seedling stem to grow to a thickness of about 3/8 to 1 inch in diameter. If the seedling is green in color, without rot or disease, and it produces healthy leaves and buds, it will be useful as a rootstock. The proper age for rootstock is typically between 6 months and 1 year old.

 

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Cut the rootstock off about 4 inches above the soil using a pair of very sharp pruning shears or a grafting knife. Make the cut level, and avoid any damage to the stem below the cut. Use your grafting knife to split the remaining stem in half from the top down to about 1 inch above the surface of the soil.

 

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Locate a scion, or new growth shoot, on an existing mango tree. The scion should be taken from a successful tree that produces regular quality fruit and flowers. The scion should have a thickness equal to or slightly smaller than the rootstock to which it will be grafted and should have fresh buds and healthy leaves. Use your grafting knife to cut the scion from the tree, then trim back the topmost leaves.

 

 

BTW do not burn or eat mango leaves, they are poisonous to humans.

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Thanks for that stephenterry. I've grafted quite a few down the years. 

 

I find the grafted trees grow quicker than those grown from seed. Probably due to the root development. Although one mango did grow on a 3 year old seeded tree this year.

 

When rubber trees were all the rage some years back, the nurseries, where the trees were sold had literally thousands of rootstock, bagged up. One nursery quite near to us (on the 1022 road) had a couple of girls grafting full time.

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51 minutes ago, grollies said:

Try air layering. 

I've never attempted it, but I'm going to give it a try. Looks very interesting.

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1 hour ago, owl sees all said:

I've never attempted it, but I'm going to give it a try. Looks very interesting.

It's a great way of getting rootstock quickly. I've tried it on lime trees with some success. Then you can graft on whatever. If you need more info try contacting @Grafting Ken he is getting to be a bit of an expert.

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Hi.. I think mango trees are grafted onto a rootstock that keeps them smaller at least all of my mango trees have.
I'm the same have one tree that has way better fruit than the others so lm grafting from that in June.
Let me find out more about this rootstock that helps keep the tree smaller to be sure as it was the wife that mentioned it.
I've asked around today and I can get the rootstock for 18 baht each if your interested I'll take 50 myself and 200 for the owl:). If anyone else wants some and I can get up to 500 trees I can get the price down.
Grafting seems easy just graft the end of a branch around 8 to 10 inch and place the whole tree into a big bag for a month... water the rootstock a day before grafting... the soil doesn't want to be too wet. For grafting large numbers make yourself a small plastic tunnel and put all grafted trees into that again for a month.


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Posted (edited)

Can someone please explain what this 'rootstock' thing is all about - simply please? I've never done anything with Mango trees but I've taken thousands of cuttings from other plants and thought doing a Mango would be the same.......no?

 

I have an ageing Mango tree in my garden, I've tried cutting out the rotten bits and there has been some re-growth but other areas are starting to rot, I think its just too old now.  I was thinking about taking some cuttings from the new growth, planting them in pots, after some time choosing the best and then using that to replace my tree.

 

I don't really want to cut the existing tree down if there's a way of rejuvanting it - I guess I could try a heavy prune but it would take years to see the results and they may not be good.  Up until this year, its always produced a lot of pretty decent sized fruit but this year's is very small.  I wasn't there most of the winter time but I know it was drier than normal and the tree doen't get watered.  I don't know if its the age, lack of rain or both that's caused this small fruit.

 

Any help to save this tree would be appreciated.

Edited by KhaoYai

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Posted (edited)

i will give you the answer when in the morning 

 

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