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Contest to replace May as British prime minister hots up

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4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Yes Captain Obvious.

 

But a majority is a majority and losing is losing. It is up to each side to work towards accommodating the other regardless if the divide is 4% or 40%. Unfortunately, the Tories, hamstrung by the loss of majority with that fatally flawed 2018 snap election, have been less inclined to cross the floor and engage in a serious domestic tête-à-tête with the losing side. Instead of presenting a stiff hand to the EU face and the admonishment to Brussels to wait their turn while the UK's domestic issues were agreed, the virtually ex- PM stupidly, prematurely and vaingloriously pulled the Article 50 pin with all the fake "I'm in charge here" bravado she could muster.

Because of 52/48 A coaltion between Labour and Tories would be the best for the sake of UK. 

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6 hours ago, JAG said:

Nor can you let it overule and overturn the decision of the majority, which is effectively what has been happening for the last two years.

 

No it hasn't. The majority who voted in the referendum, by a relatively small margin, advised the government they wanted to leave the EU.

 

But how, on what terms, and when? Those things were for parliament to investigate, debate and vote on. May buggered it up with a cunning plan to "deliver" her idea of Bexit via executive decision and in her anxiety to do it invoked Article 50 without a clue that the Supreme Court would finally stop her delusions.

 

She then made it worse with her snap election which cost her the Tory majority and angered many in her party. 

 

Corbyn, former lover Abbot and Marxist McDonnell have just spent all their time trying for force a GE so they can implement their cherished socialist state ideas,  and oversee the destruction of the UK they hate. 

 

And all because clown Cameron wanted to unite the Tories and spike defections to UKIP.

 

Now people can see what the choices are, and judge the impact, against how things have also changed in the nearly 3 years since the referendum, they deserve another opportunity to advice parliament of their wishes.

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1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

No need to read any further 17M votes would have won any general election in the past 30 years.

Which is why all the MPs are so scared of coming straight out and saying no to Brexit.

 

May foolishly chose to fight her snap election on one issue. 

 

UKIP were and are a one trick pony.

 

Corbyn, despised and ridiculed my many, especially media, chose to fight the election on all the issues people consider important.

 

Who did best?

 

Suggesting the people who voted to leave, or remain, would vote for any one party, purely based on that party's stance on Brexit is pure sophistry.

 

 

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8 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

People see this as more complicated than I believe it to be. I think there is only one way this will play out. Johnson will win the leadership battle. Any of the dithering soft remainers like Javid/Hunt/McVey/Stewart are toxic. They are cut from the same cloth as May and look what that did to the conservative party. No. Johnson, even though a total prat, has marketed himself as a hard Brexitter, which is what the public voted for 3 years ago.

 Now Farage, as people's favourite and champion of respecting democracy will be able to cut a deal with Johnson(with the condition he doesn't flipflop again) leaving a re-vamped Conservative party/Brexit party coalition with way over 50% of the votes and leave Corbyn/Abbott in the dust. With that said we will shortly be out of the collapsing Euro project on WTO and common sense terms, and on our path to making Britain Great again. This 3 years of May/Corbyn wasting time in the attempt to overturn Brexit has been more damaging than any form of Brexit could have been. Totally inexcusable.

Interesting speculation.  Well headlines in the Express today having Farage attacking Johnson saying he can't be trusted to deliver Brexit.  Gove is in and immediately also attacking Johnson and saying he would be much better at delivering Brexit.  Raab and Gove playing the long game with Raab promising tax cuts and Gove claiming that he can win over the young people when it comes to the next general election.  Actually a few commentators saying that Johnson can't be trusted to deliver his no-deal Brexit.  After all he was originally a remainer 😁 

 

In other words the games have started and they are already getting toxic.  We can follow every twist and turn of this latest soap opera and I am sure we will do so with some relish.  The local hardware shop in Westminster have reported record sales of knives over the last 24 hours.  Johnson ahead  but let's not forget when Heseltine did for Thatcher and was favourite to replace her, we ended up with John Major!

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54 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Suggesting the people who voted to leave, or remain, would vote for any one party, purely based on that party's stance on Brexit is pure sophistry.

Results of the EU election will be in soon.

No need to guess.

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27 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Results of the EU election will be in soon.

No need to guess.

An election for a subject can never be about that same subject.

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31 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Results of the EU election will be in soon.

No need to guess.

Want a bet? :cheesy:

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