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Ideas in place to reverse decline in Thai education

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Do away with the NOI FAIL POLICY , kids do not learn have to redo the year, soon engage their brains . 

Plus teachers will have to teach , but we are talking purely semantics as nothing will change !! 

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So I guess the i-pad for each student didn't help. :tongue:

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5 hours ago, Reigntax said:

The Thai education system is nothing but a farce to pretend it gives students an education. They have no knowledge of the world, history nor ability to think and analyse.

 

The average university graduate wouldnt pass a year 10 exam in a western high school.

 

nor at a singapore, japan, korea or hong kong school.

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7 hours ago, webfact said:

Ideas in place to reverse decline in Thai education

It's still declining? I thought it hit rock bottom a while ago...

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"Ideas in place to reverse decline in Thai education"

 

 

good news as it seems not possible to decline lower than "rock bottom"

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I have discussed the local education with thai friends extensively and have some first hand experience too (IT engineering master at Chula). 

- I was told for about half of my classes "it's almost impossible to fail if you intend every classes". I aced all my exams but the exam material was in no way easy.

- The teaching material is of high quality while the method greatly depends on the professor. I've had small projects, textbook readings and some self-study.

- Some classes are really difficult and have a very low success rate

- People can actually fail at a class, I've seen many bachelor/master students doing extra year/classes to validate a semester.

- Most professor had spent some time in a foreign university and my professor all spoke a very acceptable english.

- English is really lacking among students, the good ones didn't learn from school

 

My experience may be biased since I only had professors that accepted to teach in English. My overall impression is that quality education is available but it requires students to be really involved in their class.

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Has anyone actually diagnosed what the problems in education are? Is there any data and evidence to back up what the supposed problems are?

I am old enough to remember when the marvellous leader, Gen Prayut remediated education when he came to power  a few years ago. If our education is still in decline, then surely it means that Prayut's remediations were ineffective, otherwise known as useless, probably because the last re-org was political not educational.

Thailand's governments have along, long history of launching into programs without diagnosing the issues first. Remember last year when the powers that be in education put out an edict that henceforth teachers would only receive 4 years training instead of 5, however the quality of training would go up. But there were no recommendations of how the training would change to improve the quality.....ie wishful thinking.

Thailand, if ir is ever to compete in the global market and not become a remote backwater, needs to change its education system. I don't know how, but I do know that unless you take a hard look at what the problems are with the current system, you have no chance of improving it. 

I know that one of the problems is that the teachers are often incompetent...I know a number of them. But no one in Thailand can actually say this...they would have the teachers up in arms.....but you have to if you ever want to improve the quality of the education.

The next issue is the objective of education....the current objective of teaching respect for the hierarchy, does not produce smart people....if you're whole education system is spent stopping people from questioning authority....but it is the questioning rebellious types that drive societies forward. Sheep never do.

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5 hours ago, Fex Bluse said:

One of our close family friends teaches at the Thai university regarded as the most prestigious. 

 

She told us that one significant problem is that Thai schooling is not to educate but rather to socialize, where Thai kids learn their place in the social order and to make connections to the people among that social order. 

 

I think this is reflected in the Thai priority of social order and cohesion above almost all else. Thailand is effectively a Caste country, like India. 

 

The families who actually want their children educated (and who have the means) send them out of Thailand post haste. 

The hierarchical structure of Thai society can be compared to a "caste-system"  - with only those who are "connected" will ever see any form of upward-mobility. Excellence is not rewarded in this society - conformity is paramount.

 

In light of this I admire the fearlessness of Thai parents who have embarked on the Home School adventure. This is a widening trend in Thailand, for those who have the means. Imagine having your kid educated outside of the "social order " ...how will a free-thinking individual integrate into a web of mindless conformity?  Its a bold initiative and I applaud Thai parents who have the wisdom to see beyond the collective.

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7 hours ago, webfact said:

The quality of education has shown little improvement despite more resources and bigger budgets been allocated

To provide quality education you must have quality teachers.  Today's teachers are the product of a deteriorated education system so it is a real dilemma.  Until the government realizes they need to invest mega-bahts to hire top quality education professionals not someone who has gone through their system where no failures are permitted.  Students must be made to realize that to get ahead in this world you have to earn that right - not be pushed into the next level - they must earn the right to advance!

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17 minutes ago, TEFLKrabi said:

I’ll give you a clue. I’ve never seen a poor head teacher. 

Hope you mean financially poor.

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5 hours ago, mikebell said:

nobody fails exams!

Therein lies the problem! 

 

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I say bus them all of to Africa where the kids there want to be educated and most of them can speak English and the teachers are capable of teaching.as with anything in Thailand it's a joke.

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8 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

I don't think they want the people educated, because if they educate them properly, it won't be long before they lose their position of power.

history confirms (no link, just google it and you will find out)... any and all dictatorship/junta&military/communist type governments are against education to avoid being overthrown/questioned

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How about looking at the basics and reducing the lengthy holidays - after the 2 1/2 month summer break I doubt if the kids can remember where the school is never mind what they were studying.

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