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Ideas in place to reverse decline in Thai education

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12 hours ago, SoilSpoil said:

We homeschool. 1 to 2 hours a day are enough, can you imagine. The rest of the time is play time, reading, watching documentaries and going to the park and beach.

are you Thais?.... I know a couple western couple whom homeschool, but they are westerners

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12 hours ago, SoilSpoil said:

We homeschool. 1 to 2 hours a day are enough, can you imagine. The rest of the time is play time, reading, watching documentaries and going to the park and beach.

I have considered this for my daughter.

 

Just a couple of points: how do you overcome the work permit issue? And, should I be concerned about the missing school social interaction?!

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3 hours ago, Moti24 said:

This subject has been posted to death many times over.  Nobody gives a toss except the foreigners, who are powerless to interfere with Thainess.

 

Nothing will change for the better in Thai education until a completely new generation with a completely different mindset are bred into society.  Sadly, that will never happen until snow falls on Bangkok every day of the year.

I have to take issue with the first paragraph. Most of the TVF members are farang. Many have children with their wives or girl friends. The farang I know have a lot of influence over their children. Excessive Thainess, If not completely eradicated, then considerably diminished. and in place, a far broader outlook on life and the world generally.

 

Just as a PS; when I got hitched to Mrs Owl, I really put some effort into making the now step-daughter (14 years old) enlightened. I bought a number of posters; one on numbers, another on the workings of the body and two maps; one of Thailand and the other of the world. The map of the world had the countries in English. I asked the step-daughter where Thailand was. She had no idea. After giving up, I pointed out Thailand on the map. She seemed surprised. The wife interpreted "Nan thought only America and China were larger in size." 

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9 hours ago, wilailuk said:

Promblem is IQ:

 

https://brainstats.com/average-iq-in-thailand.html

 

They are dumb as f... - or dumb ass all of them?

 

- but why not look at how they bring them kids up, or not? 

 

- or look at the Thai psychology?

 

https://studyinthailand.org/study-abroad-thailand-university/psychology-of-the-thai-people.html

 

My take?

 

They are raised to be shallow, lying, two-faced, conflict avoiding, superficial, lazy, ego obsessed bastards, but velly, velly luvly!

 

 

 

Thanks for the links. Now tell us what you really think.  😁

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1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

are you Thais?.... I know a couple western couple whom homeschool, but they are westerners

You must be joking, the home background of many Thai kids is quite chaotic and and too undisciplined for anything like homeschooling. The nearest they get is a phone stuck in their hands from 3 on wards to keep them quiet. In any case where will the books come from and worst of all they would have to turn the tv off!

This thread reminds me of help requested from a test of a relative at university a few years ago. She wanted to know what 75% was expressed as a fraction, and several similar 'problems' a 9 year old should have known,

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12 hours ago, Small Joke said:

Education seems sound enough in most western countries, but idiots still vote again and again for people who outright lie to them again and again, on both sides of the fence.

Have you checked the latest results of the EU elections? There were many basically seismic changes in some of the countries, like UK and France. The idiots did move. While democracy there is slow, at least it does exist.

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2 hours ago, owl sees all said:

I have to take issue with the first paragraph. Most of the TVF members are farang. Many have children with their wives or girl friends. The farang I know have a lot of influence over their children. Excessive Thainess, If not completely eradicated, then considerably diminished. and in place, a far broader outlook on life and the world generally.

 

Just as a PS; when I got hitched to Mrs Owl, I really put some effort into making the now step-daughter (14 years old) enlightened. I bought a number of posters; one on numbers, another on the workings of the body and two maps; one of Thailand and the other of the world. The map of the world had the countries in English. I asked the step-daughter where Thailand was. She had no idea. After giving up, I pointed out Thailand on the map. She seemed surprised. The wife interpreted "Nan thought only America and China were larger in size." 

Foreign parents having influence over their children is nothing more than I would expect.  Unfortunately, 99.9% of students in the Thai education system don't have a foreign influence in their upbringing; these are the students that the current education system fails, and will continue to fail.

 

I'm retired now, but I can assure you that the current education system has seen little change, if any, since I started teaching here 15 years ago.

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On 5/27/2019 at 12:54 PM, XenZen said:

I'm guessing they can't fail middle school.   Test:  blank.   Oral exam:  Silence.   IF passing is 70 or 80, this is a PASS.  Great job.  Next!!!  Talk to parents, if possible, "oh, your kid did great!!"   Then the teacher quits.   Next!!!   Then the next teacher sleeps and is drunk and texts hookers all day.   But is white.  

That's a very funny response. 

 

Making some exceptions for the qualified farang who teach, it does sum up the some of the worse qualities of schooling in Thailand. 

 

People preoccupied with form over substance and unwilling and unable to confront challenge in the first instance rather preferring to run away. 

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11 hours ago, owl sees all said:

I have considered this for my daughter.

 

Just a couple of points: how do you overcome the work permit issue? And, should I be concerned about the missing school social interaction?!

School social interaction is indeed an important point. You can always join play and study groups in your province. My wife is Thai and I just help out, so no permit needed.

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