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On ‎5‎/‎30‎/‎2019 at 10:22 PM, MRToMRT said:

"House owners, heads of household, landlords or managers of hotels who accommodate foreign nationals on a temporary basis who stay in the kingdom legally, must notify the local immigration authorities within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the foreign national via Mobile Application"

 

So theres really no need for a foreigner to report themselves, it implies?

 

The foreigner may be the house owner.  That is the issue that some foreigners keep bringing up, exactly how and when and where to report their movements or return to their own place, even if just from another province and a short time away.

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25 minutes ago, Toany said:

 They are only interested in getting their money at CW. Other Immigration Offices may treat this differently.

In Thailand goal posts have wheels
 

Think all Immigration offices are only interested in money.

it a businesses, with loads of cash coming in every day.

 

Foreigner, get your money out,  or get out.

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16 hours ago, captpkapoor said:

But bot my wife and I take multiple entry re-entry stamps when we do our annual extensions, and we both make many trips in and out of Thailand, never ever has immigration at CW asked for TM 30. We're staying in our own condo and have never reported ourselves each time getting back.

"The Immigration Bureau at Chaengwattana first announced the new enforcement regime for these long-standing regulations regarding the “Notification of Residence of Foreigners (Form TM30)” that went into immediate implementation on 28th March 2019. "  - Hastily enforced TM30 in Thailand sows widespread confusion :  http://www.pkfthailand.asia/news/news/hastily-enforced-tm30-in-thailand-sows-widespread-confusion/

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From anybody who recently got their username and password for TM30, how long is it taking now?

In Thailand goal posts have wheels

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TM30 (or TM30 app) is not for you guys to report yourself, its for the house master/hotel owner to fill when foreigners live there (their requirement, not ours)

 

TM28 is supposed to be our requirement to fill

 

both forms are available in the linked post above.

 

to be honest, I have been to the police station once with a TM28 and they had no idea where to even begin with this, apparently because there was only one guy that had access to stamping immigration stuff and he was off for the day

I was taken upstairs because they only had one person who spoke English, mostly wasted my time for about 30 minutes

funny enough, that police lady helper ended up presenting me me with a bunch of female students and told me i could choose one

 

I didn't.

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1 minute ago, kekalot said:

 

TM30 (or TM30 app) is not for you guys to report yourself, its for the house master/hotel owner to fill when foreigners live there (their requirement, not ours)

 

TM28 is supposed to be our requirement to fill

 

both forms are available in the linked post above.

 

to be honest, I have been to the police station once with a TM28 and they had no idea where to even begin with this, apparently because there was only one guy that had access to stamping immigration stuff and he was off for the day

I was taken upstairs because they only had one person who spoke English, mostly wasted my time for about 30 minutes

funny enough, that police lady helper ended up presenting me me with a bunch of female students and told me i could choose one

 

I didn't.

Which IO is that?!? I I'm moving there! 👍 😆

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TM30 (or TM30 app) is not for you guys to report yourself, its for the house master/hotel owner to fill when foreigners live there (their requirement, not ours)
 
TM28 is supposed to be our requirement to fill
 
both forms are available in the linked post above.
 
to be honest, I have been to the police station once with a TM28 and they had no idea where to even begin with this, apparently because there was only one guy that had access to stamping immigration stuff and he was off for the day
I was taken upstairs because they only had one person who spoke English, mostly wasted my time for about 30 minutes
funny enough, that police lady helper ended up presenting me me with a bunch of female students and told me i could choose one
 
I didn't.
The TM30 might be the duty od the owner, landlord or Hotel to complete.
But it is you that may not be able to complete your 90 day or extension without it being filed. It is also you that will be asked to pay a fine. It has happened to people before.

In Thailand goal posts have wheels

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Just now, Toany said:

The TM30 might be the duty od the owner, landlord or Hotel to complete.
But it is you that may not be able to complete your 90 day or extension without it being filed. It is also you that will be asked to pay a fine. It has happened to people before.

In Thailand goal posts have wheels
 

 

old lady here couldn't do the TM30 as she wasn't the owner and the owner in Bangkok didn't want nothing to do with paperwork regarding subrent

that's why I had to fill my TM28.
 

owner itself would get in trouble for not doing TM30, i still got the paper in my passport

 

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So are we saying if i go to Pattaya with the Mrs for a few days that she has to do a TM30 as soon as we arrive home, and that when we stay with the daughter in her rented condo in BKK the owner of condo has to report ??? Xx

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So are we saying if i go to Pattaya with the Mrs for a few days that she has to do a TM30 as soon as we arrive home, and that when we stay with the daughter in her rented condo in BKK the owner of condo has to report ??? Xx
The rules state that you must be reported, using a TM30 each time you stay in a different location. So the rules say yes.

Without a crystal ball I can't say how your Immigration Officer will apply the rules. Or if he will apply them at all.

You are unlikely to have any problems unless you have to go to immigration.

If you hand in your passport at a hotel, they will probably complete a TM30 on you. Which may require your wife to complete one on your return. If you don't hand in your passport, do nothing.

If nobody files a TM30 when you stay in Bangkok, you do not need to file one on your return.

Only your immigration officer can tell you how he will apply the rules today. Tomorrow may be different.



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I’ve just checked out the app on Playstore and there are a couple of permissions that caught my eye:

 

Storage

 

Read contents of your SD card

 

Modify or delete the contents of your SD card

 

 

Brought to mind an image of a room full of IO s trawling through countless phones looking for content that they who must be obeyed object to.

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I have been to the Google Play library and the TM30 App no longer appears to be listed and the only two from the 'Immigration Bureau' found were for the TM6 and 90 day reporting.  Anyone know where the TM30 app went or has it been discontinued?

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Thanks but just checked again and it's still not there.  Perhaps you have to be in Thailand (which I'm not at the moment) for it to be found or on a specific version of Android for it to appear on Google Play.  Can you possibly tell me what version of Android it needs please?

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