JamJar Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, moutamine said: Technically, this is not stealing. He did not reach in her pcokets or her purse. The note fell off of her and dropped on the floor. At that point, it's like picking up a lost item. Was he dishonest, sure. Was he stealing, nope! Good luck trying to convict him Thai system. So if a girl puts her bag on the chair whilst having a coffee and someone sees it accidentally fall off the chair, it's ok for him to pick it and walk off with it? You need your moral compass fixing. It's all twisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, dallen52 said: A friend of mine was in big C, shopped and paid, went back in to get other stuff. Security hauled him on the way out. They called the police. HE could not find the receipt. All the stuff in big C bags.. No CCTV cameras that captured him paying for the stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstevens Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 3 hours ago, thailand49 said: Sadly I've seen this guy a few times on Walking Street at night! So he's probably seen you on Walking Street at night a few times too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Rule of thumb. If it illegal in your country very good chance it is illegal in Thailand. If it is immoral or unethical then it may be illegal in Thailand. If you see Thai's doing something does not mean it is legal in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrahamzvi Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 20 hours ago, mike787 said: To Thais, his actions impact all of us. Sad things are this desperate for him... Unfortunately, you are right. members of a minority (and we Farangs are a minority, guests in Thailand) should be on their best behaviour, as a misdeed by one impacts us all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grusa Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 9 hours ago, JamJar said: I did, frame by frame. Also blows away your assertion that it happened around the ten second mark. I've circled the moment when it dropped from between her arms....at fifteen seconds. Are you an acquaintance of his....or the man himself? I am sure the guy is a film star. He had a leading part in "Those Magnificent Men". He did everything by the book of instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwak250 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, transam said: A few assumptions there... Yeah i think he is just big boned. Pesky cameras cant get away with anything nowadays.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy P Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 20 hours ago, HeyHeyHey said: 799,000 to go .... no way it was 2,000 as it was a single bill flying, she is trying to make 100% profit The person who stole the money will reveal how much it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy P Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, Basil B said: Rule of thumb. If it illegal in your country very good chance it is illegal in Thailand. If it is immoral or unethical then it may be illegal in Thailand. If you see Thai's doing something does not mean it is legal in Thailand. In England it is classed as theft.Stealing by find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixlegs Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 It could have been either 20 or 5000. She says what she wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Wonder if the guy is a member here and is now sitting in a cupboard waiting for nightfall....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMNH Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Let's try to put this in another perspective. here we have an old farang. Obviously- he failed to learn that thieving was wrong. I could expand and say that he is what we call in the US "white trash". It is how you are brought up. "if" your tree- your parents acted this way, then no surprise. I could offer comments based upon the video- like many have done so. All I need to see is the culprit at hand...to see his obvious "grifting' tactics (and hey old man...you'll be dead soon- you've learned nothing before you bite the dust). Sad that this older person has not learned decency by now. And so.......if this person depicted in the video chimes in- for whatever reason, please know that I feel sorry for you. And sadly, many people just do not get it. they have no clue how their selfish actions affect others. In this case, you "stole" from another. I assure you that I will NEVER in my latter years nor will I ever do so.....resort to the theft (yes- theft) that this over-the -hill farang (please let me know which country he is from). He is on his way out anyway...perhaps God will make sure that is hastened. There is no excuse for this affront to ANYONE...if I could be there physically and speak to this "marginal" person, then most likely I would advise to go home- wherever that may be. You are NOT welcome anywhere based upon the video. Anyone who knows of the ethnicity of this scum bag, please let me know. He will be forever highlighted, black-listed, and hopefully self-assessed. Either stay or get the <deleted> out of there. And if you stay and you ever "think" about doing a similar thing, then you will be cast away in one form or another. Not a big deal...people like you need to be called out AND driven away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, TMNH said: Let's try to put this in another perspective. here we have an old farang. Obviously- he failed to learn that thieving was wrong. I could expand and say that he is what we call in the US "white trash". It is how you are brought up. "if" your tree- your parents acted this way, then no surprise. I could offer comments based upon the video- like many have done so. All I need to see is the culprit at hand...to see his obvious "grifting' tactics (and hey old man...you'll be dead soon- you've learned nothing before you bite the dust). Sad that this older person has not learned decency by now. And so.......if this person depicted in the video chimes in- for whatever reason, please know that I feel sorry for you. And sadly, many people just do not get it. they have no clue how their selfish actions affect others. In this case, you "stole" from another. I assure you that I will NEVER in my latter years nor will I ever do so.....resort to the theft (yes- theft) that this over-the -hill farang (please let me know which country he is from). He is on his way out anyway...perhaps God will make sure that is hastened. There is no excuse for this affront to ANYONE...if I could be there physically and speak to this "marginal" person, then most likely I would advise to go home- wherever that may be. You are NOT welcome anywhere based upon the video. Anyone who knows of the ethnicity of this scum bag, please let me know. He will be forever highlighted, black-listed, and hopefully self-assessed. Either stay or get the <deleted> out of there. And if you stay and you ever "think" about doing a similar thing, then you will be cast away in one form or another. Not a big deal...people like you need to be called out AND driven away. Another Vicar.....???? So all folk who had a great upbringing all turned out angels, and folk who had a shit upbringing are all thieves......???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, moutamine said: Technically, this is not stealing. He did not reach in her pcokets or her purse. The note fell off of her and dropped on the floor. At that point, it's like picking up a lost item. Was he dishonest, sure. Was he stealing, nope! Good luck trying to convict him Thai system. Not a very good perspective. Steal-take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it. It fits for me. The note remained her property, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 2 hours ago, dallen52 said: It's been mentioned in several other posts, Finders is NOT keepers in Thailand. (Well not for farangs anyway) It's called stealing. And many Thai places delight in calling the police and prosecution. Think about this... A true story. A friend of mine was in big C, shopped and paid, went back in to get other stuff. Security hauled him on the way out. They called the police. HE could not find the receipt. All the stuff in big C bags.. He was not of good health, frail, and he finished up in the monkey house, 2 nights. Pending a court case. Even that is corrupt and he said that people were smoking ice pipes, even having sex with inmates. 75 people in the nights he was there. Many overstays doing one night for each 500 baht of overstay cost. Big C pushed it. They always do I am told, He offered to pay for the stuff again. Even though he already had. His Thai wife was not with him. Court case, 10 times the value compensation. Plus he was fined 10,000 baht. A two months prison spell suspended for 2 years. The police approached him to assist. They have their own way to deal with these issues. Work in teams, Passport was not taken. Immigration were not informed. HE was told to cooperate... His Thai wife was allowed to visit, even in the court. They even gave her 1000 baht back for translation services. 50,000 baht cash. It cost him. After the event the police even drove him home. But two days and nights in chains and the Pattaya monkey house and court transportation in chains, were too much, He has left Thailand... Sadly it's a corrupt system and a way of life for many. If Thai find money, lucky for them. Like win lottery. If farangs find, it's not farangs money, so stealing. Trouble... last time I checked Big C has cameras all over the place that would of proved theft or not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian2f2f Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 21 hours ago, HeyHeyHey said: 799,000 to go .... no way it was 2,000 as it was a single bill flying, she is trying to make 100% profit Do you have any proof it wasn't 2 notes folded up together? I always keep my nites folded up together there for easy if drop to drop more then one at a time. And depending on how they are folded together they easily would not seperate during a fall to the ground. And from a far like this cctv easy for it to not be able to be seen that it is 2 notes folded together. Ive myself given 40 baht or so when thinking i only gave 20 and the cashier gave me a 20 baht. Thats from folded notes together and didn't know i had 2 20s there as just took them from the table in apartment and stuck in pocket thinking it was only 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moutamine Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, JamJar said: So if a girl puts her bag on the chair whilst having a coffee and someone sees it accidentally fall off the chair, it's ok for him to pick it and walk off with it? You need your moral compass fixing. It's all twisted. Come on use you head a little mate... However you are touching a good point, moral vs criminal. Picking up money that is not yours is morally questionable but its not criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, moutamine said: Come on use you head a little mate... However you are touching a good point, moral vs criminal. Picking up money that is not yours is morally questionable but its not criminal. https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=l5cAXeDvKuS0mgecsaCIDg&q=uk+law+stealing+by+finding&oq=UK+law%2C+stealing+by+f&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i22i30.2005.10307..12500...0.0..0.95.1760.21......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0j0i131.V5Xgi86LalU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beggar Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, from the home of CC said: last time I checked Big C has cameras all over the place that would of proved theft or not.. Also his prior shopping before he went in again is recorded in their computer - every single item. Hard to believe this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moutamine Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 43 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Not a very good perspective. Steal-take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it. It fits for me. The note remained her property, Tell me you've never found money on the street. Did you leave it there in case his rightfully owner came back to pick it up? Please!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, moutamine said: Tell me you've never found money on the street. Did you live there in case his rightfully owner came back to pick it up? Please!! What a crazy comment. Lady dropped money in a supermarket, in front of the farang,. He blatantly covered the money and then picked it up and kept it, completely different from finding money on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysanook Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 22 hours ago, colinneil said: Silly old bugger is in for it now when plod get hold of him, 2000 baht, hells teeth, his is gonna be in the doo-doo. Probably make him say he's sorry, give the money back and 500B fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysanook Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, brian2f2f said: Do you have any proof it wasn't 2 notes folded up together? I always keep my nites folded up together there for easy if drop to drop more then one at a time. And depending on how they are folded together they easily would not seperate during a fall to the ground. And from a far like this cctv easy for it to not be able to be seen that it is 2 notes folded together. Ive myself given 40 baht or so when thinking i only gave 20 and the cashier gave me a 20 baht. Thats from folded notes together and didn't know i had 2 20s there as just took them from the table in apartment and stuck in pocket thinking it was only 1. Agreed. Highly unlikely she's lying IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh2121 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 2000 baht. In the video which, I'll admit is not conclusive, it looked like only a single banknote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, moutamine said: 46 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Not a very good perspective. Steal-take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it. It fits for me. The note remained her property, Tell me you've never found money on the street. Did you leave it there in case his rightfully owner came back to pick it up? Please!! You're getting pretty ridiculous in your defense of this guy. Your examples are terrible and nothing similar to what happened in the OP. What is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 3 hours ago, BigC said: If she walked away and he found 2 k on the floor. The moment he asked whoes money it was anyone could claim it was theira so you could put in your pocket Takkng money from floor is not like taking a bag But he saw when she lost it. It's the same if you take money from a floor, ar a bag, knowing that it belongs to somebody else you've just seen in front of you. And that is theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysanook Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Isaanbiker said: That's not fair to call her that. Brand new banknotes can easily hang together, but it's not about 1,000 baht now, it's about a foreigner who behaves nasty. Starting to wonder if any of these people calling her a lier have ever had more than a single 1000 baht note is their wallets before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Berkshire said: You're getting pretty ridiculous in your defense of this guy. Your examples are terrible and nothing similar to what happened in the OP. What is your point? Fink he loiters at ATM's...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, moutamine said: Tell me you've never found money on the street. Did you leave it there in case his rightfully owner came back to pick it up? Please!! What's wrong with you? The old guy didn't find money on a street, he saw the owner who'd lost it, covered the banknote(s) with his shoe and picked it up. Don't you get that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEE TEE Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Old scumbag tealeaf . I hope he gets his just deserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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