webfact Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 U.S. will deploy 1,000 troops to Poland; Warsaw may call them 'Fort Trump' By Jeff Mason and Steve Holland U.S. President Donald Trump greets Poland's President Andrzej Duda in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, U.S., June 12, 2019. REUTERS/Leah Millis WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump pledged to Polish President Andrzej Duda on Wednesday that he will deploy 1,000 U.S. troops to Poland, a step sought by Warsaw to deter potential aggression from Russia. Despite their strong show of unity, Trump disagreed with Duda's attempt to force the retirement of some Polish Supreme Court judges, a decision last year that prompted protests. "No," Trump said when asked if he supported the move. Trump announced the troop deployment at a joint news conference with Duda in the White House Rose Garden shortly after the two leaders signed a joint declaration affirming defence cooperation and watched a U.S.-made F-35 fighter jet fly overhead. Duda, who is considering naming the U.S. installation "Fort Trump," said the new influx of troops was needed because of Moscow's past aggression against Poland and to help solidify his country's ties to the West. "Russia again is showing its unkind, unfriendly imperial face," he said. "Russia is always looking out to take our territory." Trump said earlier the troop contingent could come from the U.S. force in Germany, which he has accused of paying too little for NATO's common defence. The decision by Trump represents an effort to cater to the interests of Poland, a key NATO ally, while not overly antagonizing Russian President Vladimir Putin, with whom Trump would like to have friendly relations. He and Putin are to meet in Japan in two weeks. "I hope that Poland is going to have a great relationship with Russia. I hope that we're going to have a great relationship with Russia," said Trump. The United States already has troops in Poland as part of a 2016 agreement with the NATO military alliance in response to Moscow's annexation of Crimea from Poland's eastern neighbour Ukraine in 2014. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg issued a statement welcoming the deployment. "Today’s announcement is part of NATO’s measured, defensive and proportionate efforts to strengthen our deterrence and defence," he said. Duda denied backsliding on democracy when asked about his attempt to remove the judges. He said some of them dated back to Poland's communist past and that he wanted to remove them as part of judicial reforms. "This is a very complex issue," he said. "Everything that we were doing was aimed at retiring those people ... Let me assure you, freedom of speech is absolutely respected in Poland. Poland absolutely respects all constitutional standards." With Trump to turn 73 on Friday, Duda wished Trump a happy birthday at an evening White House reception whose audience included Polish-Americans. Some in the crowd launched into a happy birthday song in Polish. "This first term of your presidency will be the introduction to your second term," Duda told Trump. (Reporting by Jeff Mason and Steve Holland in Washington; Editing by Lisa Shumaker and Matthew Lewis) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-06-13 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I’ll bet the troops will love it good buying power and some lovely ladys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Probably going to build a golf course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topdoc Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, webfact said: "Russia is always looking out to take our territory." Liar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDeadSenter Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Topdoc said: 23 minutes ago, webfact said: "Russia is always looking out to take our territory." Liar! Sadly since Trump's incredible election victory Russophobia has been rampant and remains un-tackled. Russia is the perpetual scapegoat and excuse for team Dem having run a lacking campaign. If the large US news networks air in Poland it is no surprise that Mr.Duda has been sucked into the web of lies and deceit and constant hating on all things Russia that they run with pretty much 24-7. Not to worry, logic is never far away when Trump is present. "I hope that Poland is going to have a great relationship with Russia. I hope that we're going to have a great relationship with Russia," said Trump. Thank you Donald, for a shot of common sense and reality. This Polish base will also be great for US intel to keep a close eye on Merkel and her associates, who of course are the real and present danger to Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: If the large US news networks air in Poland it is no surprise that Mr.Duda has been sucked into the web of lies and deceit and constant hating on all things Russia that they run with pretty much 24-7. Are you that ignorant of Poland's history or just dishonest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Topdoc said: 4 hours ago, webfact said: "Russia is always looking out to take our territory." Liar! Soviet troops (the Northern Group of Forces) were stationed in Poland from 1945 until 1993. A large force, occupied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1,000 American troops are going to be no deterrent to Russia, regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: Sadly since Trump's incredible election victory Russophobia has been rampant and remains un-tackled. Russia is the perpetual scapegoat and excuse for team Dem having run a lacking campaign. If the large US news networks air in Poland it is no surprise that Mr.Duda has been sucked into the web of lies and deceit and constant hating on all things Russia that they run with pretty much 24-7. Not to worry, logic is never far away when Trump is present. Soviet invasion of Poland The Soviet invasion of Poland was a military operation by the Soviet Union without a formal declaration of war. On 17 September 1939, the Soviet Union invaded Poland from the east, sixteen days after Germany invaded Poland from the west. Subsequent military operations lasted for the following 20 days and ended on 6 October 1939 with the two-way division and annexation of the entire territory of the Second Polish Republic by Germany and the Soviet Union.[7]The Soviet invasion of Poland was secretly approved by Germany following the signing of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact on 23 August 1939.[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Soviet invasion of Poland The Soviet invasion of Poland was a military operation by the Soviet Union without a formal declaration of war. On 17 September 1939, the Soviet Union invaded Poland from the east, sixteen days after Germany invaded Poland from the west. Subsequent military operations lasted for the following 20 days and ended on 6 October 1939 with the two-way division and annexation of the entire territory of the Second Polish Republic by Germany and the Soviet Union.[7]The Soviet invasion of Poland was secretly approved by Germany following the signing of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact on 23 August 1939.[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland The Russians were cunning, they didn't invade until the Polish government had de-camped to England, thereby not breaching the Russia - Poland anti aggression treaty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: Duda denied backsliding on democracy when asked about his attempt to remove the judges. He said some of them dated back to Poland's communist past and that he wanted to remove them as part of judicial reforms. Liar. You want to remove them because they do not bend to your will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, rabas said: Soviet troops (the Northern Group of Forces) were stationed in Poland from 1945 until 1993. A large force, occupied. Indeed. And Poland was moved Westwards by Stalin with large swathes of what was Poland suddenly not anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 58 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Liar. You want to remove them because they do not bend to your will. Maybe. Or maybe they refuse to no longer politicize the law as they did in their communist days; or are well past the normal retiring age. Politicians, Judges and all public servants aren't special cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Just now, Baerboxer said: Maybe. Or maybe they refuse to no longer politicize the law as they did in their communist days; or are well past the normal retiring age. Politicians, Judges and all public servants aren't special cases. The Polish president is part of the Polish Catholic right wing movement and he will not tolerate any view that is not his. Reminds me of the 1930s Catholic fascist groups prevalent in both France and Poland prior to World War 2. The man is no friend of democracy or an independent judiciary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 6 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: Thank you Donald, for a shot of common sense and reality. Will you be thanking former POTUS Obama who deployed in 2016 about 1,000 soldiers in Poland under the plan “to enhance our forward presence in central and eastern Europe” as well? That was included in NATO's total deployment of 3,000-4,000 troops into northeastern Europe to defend against any Russian aggression. Trump just made a bold move to copy Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jany123 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 6 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: Not to worry, logic is never far away when Trump is present. Yep.... near enough is good enough when your using a hand grenade. its a pity though, that whilst logic is never far away, it’s still never in the same room at the same time as trump. Maybe the American people’s can rectify the problem that this incongruity poses, during the 2020 election cycle, by electing someone who occupies the same space and time as logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 6 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: Not to worry, logic is never far away when Trump is present. . Thank you, I really needed that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, jany123 said: Yep.... near enough is good enough when your using a hand grenade. its a pity though, that whilst logic is never far away, it’s still never in the same room at the same time as trump. Maybe the American people’s can rectify the problem that this incongruity poses, during the 2020 election cycle, by electing someone who occupies the same space and time as logic. Yeah, such as almost … ANYBODY else but him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jerry787 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 east europe countries are trading their land to a next war . understanding the polish government got a very good pay off from US, but allowing in 1000US soldiers and call a plae forth trumphish prove how worth such so easy to to bribe government people. shame on poland, not worth to visit anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 6 hours ago, candide said: Are you that ignorant of Poland's history or just dishonest? My thoughts as well. The knowledge base for some consists of the "news", heresay, movies and tabloids. History repeats itself, in part due to those who ignore it, are not aware of it, or just don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcut Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, jany123 said: Yep.... near enough is good enough when your using a hand grenade. its a pity though, that whilst logic is never far away, it’s still never in the same room at the same time as trump. Maybe the American people’s can rectify the problem that this incongruity poses, during the 2020 election cycle, by electing someone who occupies the same space and time as logic. Trump will be re-elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Disgusting to see Trump on TV satisfied with the current level of democracy in Poland Q Mr. President, how concerned are you about backsliding on democracy in Poland? And will that be a subject of discussion today? PRESIDENT TRUMP: I’m not concerned. I know the President very well. I know the people and the leadership of Poland very well. I’m not concerned at all. By the way, Poland is doing so well and they know if they do backslide, they won’t be doing well like they’re doing right now. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-president-duda-republic-poland-bilateral-meeting-2/ He should be concerned (see link below) but he's so happy to have a leader of a European country praising him (the other being Orban), https://freedomhouse.org/report/nations-transit/2018/poland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyHeyHey Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 5 hours ago, worgeordie said: 1,000 American troops are going to be no deterrent to Russia, regards worgeordie well, shoot one and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycu Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 5 hours ago, worgeordie said: 1,000 American troops are going to be no deterrent to Russia, regards worgeordie What if they all have Trump hair styles ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jany123 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Longcut said: Trump will be re-elected. Maybe... Steve Brannon doesn’t appear to think so. at the moment, along the lines of “fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me” the American people’s can be excused for inflicting trump on themselves and the world at large. Re- electing Trump makes the peoples culpable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jany123 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 56 minutes ago, monkeycu said: What if they all have Trump hair styles ???? I can see it now. A mass bayoneting whilst the enemy is rolling around on the floor laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jany123 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, HeyHeyHey said: well, shoot one and see what happens What happens? Think Vietnam.... a constant stream of body bags being unloaded from military transports stateside, resulting in all the mums and dads of the non bone spurred kids (ie... the average American) rising in protest against the current administration. (Ie....Wealthy old Republicans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user68677878 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 14 hours ago, Thailand said: Probably going to build a golf course. Bingo!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 10 hours ago, worgeordie said: 1,000 American troops are going to be no deterrent to Russia, regards worgeordie 4 hours ago, HeyHeyHey said: well, shoot one and see what happens 999 American troops are going to be even less a deterrent. But it would make a great drinking song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 11 hours ago, candide said: Are you that ignorant of Poland's history or just dishonest? C. All of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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